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As much as I'd like black shark to be released today, I wouldn't want it to be in an incomplete state. Like for instance if I tried to deploy to Japan I wouldn't want to have to divert half way due to multiple navigation system errors :(

 

http://dc01-cdh-afa03.tranguard.net/AFA/Reports/2007/Month02/Day12/1025raptor.htm

 

when they made the decision not to sell these overseas, someone obviously thought they could save money not buying the full global set of terrain CD's!

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There are some goodies yet to be put into BS that are secondary goals and subject to change. An immidiate release would mean the helo only and nothing left for fixes and the other fliables. So dont be impatient if it comes later, is because it will be better featured as well. :)

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You have a point. If it takes this long, i better be good, and i'd rather wait for a better game rather than have an insainly buggy and incomplete game now.

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Well the Ka50 is going to be the most highly detailed helicopter simulation I can think of - the helicopter in itself is spectacular in it's detail.

 

You can catch a glimpse of how much more detailed by watching the videos available, but that really doesn't give you the full picture ;)

 

 

If the rest of FC was left untouched and a hugely detailed AFM helicopter was added, you'd still have a fantastically enjoyable sim - but ED are going beyond that.

 

Have patience - the end result is going to kick arse ;)

 

 

 

Interesting note on the F-22s - seems they haven't quite sorted out all those software problems still . . . .

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more on the F-22 problems! Please note I'm not trying to run down the F-22, it is one of my dream aircraft. Just the US spent a LOT of money on this, and it had software bugs. Bear this in mind next time you're having a go at ED (or any software house :):

 

SOURCE:Flightglobal.com

Pictures: Navigational software glitch forces Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptors back to Hawaii, abandoning first foreign deployment to Japan

By Justin Wastnage

 

 

Lockheed Martin is rushing a software fix to Hawaii after 12 US Air Force F-22A Raptors en route to Japan for the stealth fighter's first overseas deployment had to turn back because an unspecified problem with their navigation systems.

 

The F-22s, of the 27th Fighter Squadron from Langley AFB in Virginia, were en route from Hickham AFB in Hawaii to Kadena AB on Okinawa for a three- to four-month deployment. They are expected to try again by the end of the week, after the software fix is incorporated and tested.

 

Asked to comment on rumours the problem related to crossing the international dateline, the USAF said: "The aircraft experienced a software problem involving the navigation system en route from Hickam to Kadena. For operational security reasons we will not discuss specific aircraft systems or locations."

 

Taking delivery of the first F-22 for the Pacific Air Forces at Lockheed's Marietta, Georgia plant on Monday, USAF Gen Paul Hester said the reason for sending the Raptors to Kadena is “to learn how to deploy with the F-22. We get a manual with the aircraft and we are learning every day the capabilities built into the aircraft.”

 

PACAF's F-22s are being delivered to Langley for training, with the first eight aircraft to arrive at Elmendorf AFB in Alaska in August and two squadrons to be operational by the end of 2008. Eventually, Raptors will also be based at Hickam.

 

 

 

Dozerf22 on Fencecheck said this

 

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As you can read on the site we experienced a problem on the deployment leg from Hawaii to Kadena. I thinks its funny since there are so many complicated things that it would be so simple as a line of software code and I believe it's going to be about that simple. Who would have thought, or caught, the software line of code that divided 180 by 0 when you cross the dateline from east to west?? Obviously some engineer never considered that! From my perspective its one of those little things you continue to work out of the system as it matures - they already have a fix in place and the contractor has people on the ground fixing it - to be quite honest, I think its a tremendous sucess story - why? A problem was discovered (expected in a new jet no matter what Raptor opponents will say, NO jet has ever been problem free nor will there ever be), and within a few days its identified and a fix is being put in place in the field, 5,000 miles away out in the field on an operational deployment - that sure seems like one heck'uva a feat to me! In fact, they're now working on the code to make sure we don't discover another "feature" like that to make sure it's good around the globe.

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I'm not buying it. If you're going to serially disappoint your fan base, the least you could do is release some new content for the existing game. How about some new ground object models, or some terrain textures, anything. How much would it cost you to at least throw us a bone?

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I'm not buying either article. First of all, a software glitch that supposedly caused a no-go condition for all 12 aircraft?...enroute?!!! Horse feathers!!! Second of all, media reports of a software update being rushed to the Raptors as they sit at Hickam? Bulls**t!!!

 

The link to AF Magazine shows a headline which links to a Reuters story. Reuters?!!! Yeah...as if THOSE bozos had the first clue about anything. Sheesh...if I had a dime for each time I have been consulted in the last few weeks to explain and disspell the Reuters story about the iguana at Aquatopia in Antwerp, Begium...I'd be a rich man. The animal, contrary to what the story wanted people to believe (so they could sell their story), was NOT given Viagra. It was a friggin' prolapse, and Aquatopia didn't treat it until it became necrotic. The reality is, its no longer a cute, funny story that will sell newspapers, its actually a clear-cut case of abuse and cruelty. Nobody wants to read the truth though.

 

Reuters, and every other media outlet, should just go back to their true calling...asking "would you like fries with that?"

 

The story will eventually pan out through official channels. Until then, let's be cautious in the bad reputation we hang on the Raptor. The F-111 had to endure the same BS from the media in the late 60's and early 70's, when, actually, it turned out to be a very capable aircraft.

 

BTW...as soon as the author of that second article learns how to spell HICKAM AFB...as in Lt. Col. Horace Meek HICKAM (not Hickham) properly, then I might take him a little more seriously.

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