superhavoc Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Not sure if the Tomcat carried them operationally, but will Zuni rockets be an option at some point in the future? (idk if this was already discussed in a previous thread) "Drink up, be crude, sleep late, urinate in public, and get the job done." -Phu Khen AV-8er https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-x94cMTXlroxUvLFCDax5A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceFuel85 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 AFAIK the Tomcat never carried Zuni's operationally. They were only tested a few times and the last time they were seen was on the "Great Tomato" VF-101 showbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeroamer Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Would be a nice feature though, If HB is willing to go into a few experimental weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Might Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 We're they fired from said show bird? If so, I expect that they were actually cleared for use, but the Navy just never chose to deploy with them. Considering the incredible cost and work in qualifying weapons for an airframe, I would think that such qualification would be reason enough to include then in the sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 They are listed in one of the Jane's books as being used for FAC(A) target marking. Never found any operational accounts about them being used though, but my reference materials are few. Punk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudknocker Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I think because its a game having a few experimental weapons such as Zuni's on the F-14 could be pretty cool! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeroamer Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Depends on how many of them we can carry. If so it would be a valid loadout for a fast strike role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I think we've decided to include these. Will have to check in with the team on these. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komemiute Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I think we've decided to include these. Will have to check in with the team on these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Honestly, I don't like having experimental stuff, that never became operational, implemented in our F-14. We could also get AMRAAMs then... Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addde Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Honestly, I don't like having experimental stuff, that never became operational, implemented in our F-14. We could also get AMRAAMs then... As Always, its your choice to use it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Could someone very briefly explain how Zunis would compare to 2.75 inch rockets, like the Hydra? Wikipedia doesn't really help with this. How does f.e. a Zuni HE warhead compare (roughly) to a 2.75" HE and an Mk 82 bomb in terms of weight and effect? Also how does the Zuni compare in effective range to the 2.75" and in in what role/to what effect are they usually deployed? Thx :) Edited January 30, 2018 by twistking My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The Zunis are described in detail in the official aircraft documentation, so I'm unsure how accurate it is to call it an experimental addition. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhavoc Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Could someone very briefly explain how Zunis would compare to 2.75 inch rockets, like the Hydra? Wikipedia doesn't really help with this. How does f.e. a Zuni HE warhead compare (roughly) to a 2.75" HE and an Mk 82 bomb in terms of weight and effect? Also how does the Zuni compare in effective range to the 2.75" and in in what role/to what effect are they usually deployed? Thx :) The Zuni is 5" in diameter and weighs around 100 pounds give or take (depending on the warhead) so definitely more firepower than a Hydra (I'm assuming you're referring to the Hydra) though a Mk 82 probably has a bigger punch. From what I gather, the Zuni and the Hydra have similar range (about 5 miles). Can't say too much for irl employment on the Zuni (I'm guessing it might be like lobbing Mk 81s at a target) though it was originally developed for both air-to-air and air-to-ground use, an A-4 actually shot down a Mig-17 over Vietnam with Zuni rockets in '67. Edited January 30, 2018 by superhavoc "Drink up, be crude, sleep late, urinate in public, and get the job done." -Phu Khen AV-8er https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-x94cMTXlroxUvLFCDax5A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The Zuni is 5" in diameter and weighs around 100 pounds give or take (depending on the warhead) so definitely more firepower than a Hydra (I'm assuming you're referring to the Hydra) though a Mk 82 probably has a bigger punch. From what I gather, the Zuni and the Hydra have similar range (about 5 miles). Can't say too much for irl employment on the Zuni (I'm guessing it might be like lobbing Mk 81s at a target) though it was originally developed for both air-to-air and air-to-ground use, an A-4 actually shot down a Mig-17 over Vietnam with Zuni rockets in '67. I thought there was a 2.75 inch Zuni rocket as well? Punk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 zuni is only in 5 inch, no other "versions" iirc the only 2.75 rocket other than hydra was the old mightymouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhavoc Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 I thought there was a 2.75 inch Zuni rocket as well? Seems kinda pointless to have a 2.75" version when the Hydra is already available. "Drink up, be crude, sleep late, urinate in public, and get the job done." -Phu Khen AV-8er https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-x94cMTXlroxUvLFCDax5A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentLaw Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Could someone very briefly explain how Zunis would compare to 2.75 inch rockets, like the Hydra? Wikipedia doesn't really help with this. How does f.e. a Zuni HE warhead compare (roughly) to a 2.75" HE and an Mk 82 bomb in terms of weight and effect? Also how does the Zuni compare in effective range to the 2.75" and in in what role/to what effect are they usually deployed? Thx :) Bring the Hydra if you want to shoot at trucks. Bring the Zuni if you want to shoot at tanks. If you have flown the P-51 or F-86, the Zuni is something like an upgraded HVAR. The Zuni is already available for the Harrier and will be available for the Hornet too. I think it's called "LAU-10" on the loadout screen. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mking Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 The zuni project i hope set to end of the list for tomcat greets mike System Hydro H115i with 8700k @ 4,9 ghz all cores, Asus strix Z370 f, 32gb ddr4 3600Mhz, Asusrog swift 34 gsync ,Vr hp Reverb .Palit gaming pro 2080 ti Thrustmaster Warthog f18grip and th pedal Steamvr ss 100% and dcs world ss 180% tomcat eats the viper for breakfast :P Lange lebe die Tomcat": Long live the Cat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 thank you all for the clarification on the zuni. much appreciated! My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 As Always, its your choice to use it or not. In singleplayer, yes, but in multiplayer I would have to deal with them. The Zunis are described in detail in the official aircraft documentation, so I'm unsure how accurate it is to call it an experimental addition. Alright, didn't know that. From what was said before it sounded very experimental, but if they are described in the official aircraft documentation than I don't have any issues with this :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I think that the mission builder can limit the types as well as the numbers of weapons that are available at any field (as well as the carrier?) so you wouldn't have to deal with them. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 zuni is only in 5 inch, no other "versions" iirc the only 2.75 rocket other than hydra was the old mightymouse Must have been a misprint in my book then. Punk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanne118 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Wow, that is awesome guys! With all the hard work we can see on the updates and the enthusiasm you guys (+ gals?) have for this module it is going to be a work of beauty indeed! I looked around some more and found a puzzling image linked in one of the forum posts (https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3034901&postcount=7) regarding the rockets: In this image (from an apparent nav-air manual) it claims that the F14 was able to carry rockets pods on the centerline belly stations (LAU-10A/A on stations 3 & 6), but oddly enough station 3 can hold two pods whilst it is being listed that station 6 can only carry 1? Even more weird is that all the images and sources I could find (M.A.T.S., google images, etc) all show the rocket pods being mounted on a TER (Triple Ejector Rack) on the wing pylons ( 1 and 8 ), but not on the centerline stations? Multi-racking was apparently done as shown in the image above, but this may have just been for demonstration purposes (also, can anyone identify the rectangular store on the bottom station of the rack? Maybe an ECM pod?). Then again, all images / sources do have the rocket pods being mounted on TERs; was this just done to avoid making a new pylon adapter? How did they fit the multiracks on the F-14 anyway, I was not aware that it could carry more than 1 store per pylon / station? As I am already writing a reaaally long post anyway, might squeeze in more questions: in comparison to the rockets pods, how much information is available to on the (attempted) integration of the HARM and AMRAAM? Any chance those might be up for consideration (in the far future)? Edited February 3, 2018 by Nanne118 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Groundpounder extraordinaire SPECS: i7-4790K, MSI Z97 Gaming 7, 16 GB RAM, MSI GTX 980ti, Thrustmaster WARTHOG HOTAS, Saitek Pro Combat Rudder pedals, TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeydriver Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 The rectangular store is a TALD- (tactical airborne launched decoy) Very useful during TARPs missions! VF-2 Bounty Hunters https://www.csg-1.com/ DCS F-14 Pilot/RIO Discord: https://discord.gg/6bbthxk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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