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Yeah, but when you read the initial announcement from December 2017, it does not leave you with the impression that availability will be 2 years later (if not even more).

Announcement of what?

Was it an announcement like "get your cash ready, next Monday this is coming out"?

Clearly, no.

It was an announcement - or better call it information - like "see what we are working on".

No less, but no more.

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We appreciate interest to our future products but we also expect understanding that we are not going to sacrifice technical perfection to haste. Our throttle will be outstanding - for that it will take as long as it takes to make it.

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for that it will take as long as it takes to make it.

I'm curious about the design process to create such a product. How is it done ? What takes time ?

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Announcement of what?

Was it an announcement like "get your cash ready, next Monday this is coming out"?

Clearly, no.

It was an announcement - or better call it information - like "see what we are working on".

No less, but no more.

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We appreciate interest to our future products but we also expect understanding that we are not going to sacrifice technical perfection to haste. Our throttle will be outstanding - for that it will take as long as it takes to make it.

Thanks AeroGator for the info update :D . I'm looking forward to this product very much! I appreciate a company taking the time to do something right myself. After purchasing a certain unnamed U.S. "high-end" HOTAS product, which was anything but, except in price (twice), I'm much more interested in a well made, well engineered, durable product, and I'm willing to wait and pay for it ...

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After purchasing a certain unnamed U.S. "high-end" HOTAS product, which was anything but, except in price (twice), I'm much more interested in a well made, well engineered, durable product, and I'm willing to wait and pay for it ...

 

Is there a US company out there selling HOTAS as consumer products ? You seem to imply they're well known but I can't think of a name.

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Is there a US company out there selling HOTAS as consumer products ? You seem to imply they're well known but I can't think of a name.

 

He is likely referring to TM...

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Thrustmaster was an american company a long time ago, in fact they've been under french ownership well longer than under american control now. That's probably why I could not think about them as a US company.

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I'm curious about the design process to create such a product. How is it done ? What takes time ?

It's a good question, and when time permits we will probably make a film about what it takes to create an adult toy (did I say something funny? ;)) and how it is organized.

Key words, as usually, are "when time permits" - which may mean anything at all. But at least we are thinking about it. So it may some day become real.

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It's a good question, and when time permits we will probably make a film about what it takes to create an adult toy (did I say something funny? ;)) and how it is organized.

Key words, as usually, are "when time permits" - which may mean anything at all. But at least we are thinking about it. So it may some day become real.

That's actually a good ideal! Could be a good marketing tool also.

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Key words, as usually, are "when time permits" - which may mean anything at all. But at least we are thinking about it. So it may some day become real.

I'm not asking that much (film format) but indeed it would be even more interesting in that way :smilewink:

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I'm curious about the design process to create such a product. How is it done ? What takes time ?

 

Peek at this topic, there the main guy of TECS (Borada) development made post, discuss ideas and tech with Russian players.

Will see too that this project still in early stage, the "it will take as long as it takes to make it" will take some time. ;)

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/6689-tecs-%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%B2%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%B4/page/71/


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Likely not in my lifetime lol.

I think they may have been a bit premature starting this "unveiling" thread.

 

From the very first post in this thread over a year ago:

TECS (Twin Engine Control System) is a completely new throttle control device made for today's and future jet warbirds.

This unique state of art device is already out of "development" phase, and is currently entering "preparation for serial production".


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... I think they may have been a bit premature starting this "unveiling" thread.

 

From the very first post in this thread over a year ago: ...

And this is exactly why post #323 and following made perfect sense. It remembers me when ED announced the EDGE engine literally years before it came out and kind of shot themselves in the foot being "too early" and teasing everyone but don't release it.

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At this point, after 2 years of absolutely nothing from VKB about this device, I hope some other manufacturer take the same idea on their new products :D

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Yeah I would not mind replacing my Warthog Throttle, but the Virpil offering just is not too appealing to me.

Guess I will be hanging in there with the Warthog throttle for a while yet.

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Of course! We wish them luck! :smilewink:

 

 

As much as I like what I see in this thread I'm a little concerned. Think about it...

 

 

Belorussian base

Polish stick extension

French grip

Croatian pedals

Russian throttle

 

 

I worry about what's really happening on that USB bus with all this stuff talking to each other when I'm not around... :) :joystick:

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VKB, a lot of us are disappointed Virpil's new throttle (T-50CM) doesn't have an AB detent. This could be your moment if you capitalise on it.

 

Come on VKB, Virpil have basically given you the throttle market with this oversight.

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VKB, a lot of us are disappointed Virpil's new throttle (T-50CM) doesn't have an AB detent. This could be your moment if you capitalise on it.

 

Come on VKB, Virpil have basically given you the throttle market with this oversight.

Consider the thought to only release the middle part of the throttle system (first), especially with VR on the horizon. The advantage of the whole system is diminishing the more time goes on since VR gets more ripe each week. You know it's true.

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VKB, a lot of us are disappointed Virpil's new throttle (T-50CM) doesn't have an AB detent. This could be your moment if you capitalise on it.

 

Come on VKB, Virpil have basically given you the throttle market with this oversight.

 

If you look their mockup model for their vision, they very well know the need for good detent. And they are not just visualizing in it the detent but actual finger lifts and palm buttons. They seem to have wish to add the real kind mechanical stops for stop and afterburner, so you need to use fingerlifts (push down) to get to afterburner (question is, would they manage then make the "push through"?) as well press swing down with palm to get the throttle to stop position from idle.

 

What I now wish for the VKB design change, is to actually eliminate all the buttons and switches behind the throttle, and extend the throttle base little bit wider, and make the throttle itself travel through the whole base, giving more accurate large throttle movement. And then that would open up the reason for customers as well get the additional rear panel or front panel if need for extended buttons and switches, while delivering only the basics for the side of the base (like extra axis for AV-8B nozzles, few rotaries, few buttons).

 

What I would like to see, is programmable throttle detents, so at different aircrafts the detent can be set same physically, even when they are different virtually.

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That would all be nice, but I am not going to be able to hold out as long as it apparently

is going to take for them to bring out a throttle unit.

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What I would like to see, is programmable throttle detents, so at different aircrafts the detent can be set same physically, even when they are different virtually.

 

That is done with the curve setting, however the VKB software don't provide the needed tool for this yet.

 

The only soft I know to make this properly is Joystick Gremlin.

We can set the AB point exactly where we want depending on the aircrafts we'll fly, and keep perfect linearity before and after the point.

 

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So, because our physical detente doesn't move, we change the height of the AB point depending on the Aircrafts we fly.


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