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W O W....This l@@ks interesting?????

 

Hmmm, Can't wait to give it a shot!

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Holy crap! Has anyone else been able to replicate this?

I'll definitely try this tonight with my 1080Ti.

 

How can it just suddenly start utilising the GPU like that lmao?!?!?

 

And if you run WITHOUT steamvr, how is the head tracking? I just assumed it would be crap without it???

 

Edit: Nevermind, apparently you can still have lighthouse tracking without steamvr running. I didn't even know that!


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...sounds like these new Tensor cores of the RTX cards could be activated to work for regular application?

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Doesn't work in my case (CV1). Hopefully just for now...

 

 

Looks like this is particular to Pimax only.

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Anyone tried this yet and have it work?

 

I'll be giving it a shot after work today.

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I wanted to try it (GTX1080Ti), but I can`t start DCS from PiTool without SteamVR. I always get a fatal error message.

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Fatal error. Cant get it to work.

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Ok, I gave it a try... and it works also with SteamVR running in the background.

In the free flight with the F-14 on Black Sea map I started with about 40fps with my settings. After clicking once on "default" in the EVGA precision X1 tool I gained about 60fps, So that`s an improvement of about 50%! GPU usage rose from 70% to 100%.

 

But there is one problem. After the default clicking and gaining higher frames I got very heavy warping in the game. It´s like having a double image now and makes it unplayable, even with the higher frames. So I activated smart smoothing in the PiTool and the warping has gone, everything is smooth. As long as SS can maintain constant fps. As soon as you drop below the frame limit or if the fps are not constant in some maneuvers, the heavy warping is back and makes it hard to play.

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I have not tried yet but this may be a dumb question for the guys who are getting fatal error. Are you guys trying to launch the steam version of DCS World from pitool or the standalone version.

 

Fatal error only when trying to launch DCS from PiTool.

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Have you tried unchecking "Start SteamVR automatically with applications" in SteamVR and launching DCS normally?

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Displays: Philips BDM4065UC 60Hz 4K UHD Screen, Pimax 8KX

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For @ram0506 and others getting the fatal error message: as strange as this sounds, that is expected.

 

You will have to dismiss the various error messages a number of times (>10) over perhaps 2-5 minutes. It's extremely strange, but if you keep dismissing the errors, DCS will eventually load.

 

If you open task manager in you will be able to see that DCS.exe is running, despite the application window not being visible.

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Have you tried unchecking "Start SteamVR automatically with applications" in SteamVR and launching DCS normally?

 

I did not do that. I'll try it. Thanks

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Have you tried unchecking "Start SteamVR automatically with applications" in SteamVR and launching DCS normally?

 

Didn`t know that, thanks. Now I can start DCS normally (by clicking the DCS-icon on my desktop) without SteamVR being opened. :thumbup:

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I would say, running DCS directly from Pitool without SteamVR is highly recommended :)

 

Ghosting is really reduced now to a minimum and performance much more smoother.

 

Just took some flights - it was like graphical poetry :)

 

But issues found so far, with the modded planes and helos ( cockpit and/or sound mods ), which won´t load, only the unmodded planes has loaded.

Also a strange issue with the Harrier, which was the only module which has a massive flickering image.

 

... need some more investigation, before removing Steam and SteamVR completely.

 

Edit: Flickering image with the Harrier has gone. Seems there is needed some reinstallation of the modded modules ...

Also the SteamVR Webhelper is always trying to execute, when DCS started ...


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Cant launch DCS thru Pitool, I get handling errors from all my modules with serial number.

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I can't run it through pitools either, i have the standalone version. Imported dcs.exe, went through all the fatal error messages for probably 15 minutes and dcs would not start. Also have the latest pitool version

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I tried this with my Strix 1080Ti OC. Could not get the FPS to increase.

I launch DCS from Pitool, not running SteamVR. Get the usual errors, but game starts ok sometimes. Other times it crashes.

 

Despite not running steamVR there is a blank window that flickers rapidly with "SteamVR" in the title. No idea what that's about.

 

When it works I click on DCS to give it focus, jump into freeflight. Alt tab to GPUTweak and change clocks - no effect in game except for slight fps changes according to GPU clocks.

 

Installed PrecisionX and hit default, but didn't help. Ran out of time to experiment further.

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I tired it with steamvr and precisionX and it kinda worked, i got better fps but after a few seconds i got some really bad ghosting and dubble vision effect so it made it unplayable. I really wanna get it working only through pitools so i can skip the parallell projection to get a couple of frames extra.

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I disabled all module with serial numbers in DCS by disabling them in the module install tab so DCS will load fine thru pitools but as I turn my head around the view moves with the Pimax slightly and its not steady. I did get a increase in FPS with this trick but it made the image double vision when looking around. Not sure Sweiviver is getting his to work.

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I disabled all module with serial numbers in DCS by disabling them in the module install tab so DCS will load fine thru pitools but as I turn my head around the view moves with the Pimax slightly and its not steady. I did get a increase in FPS with this trick but it made the image double vision when looking around. Not sure Sweiviver is getting his to work.

 

oh so you think it's the modules with serial number that's causing the problem with not being able to run it through pitools?

 

It sounds like your sensors isn't working right if the image move around

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oh so you think it's the modules with serial number that's causing the problem with not being able to run it through pitools?

 

It sounds like your sensors isn't working right if the image move around

 

Log file in DCS saved game folder says error on all modules that have serial numbers so I think Pitool is trying to bypass the DRM for DCS. Disable those modules and no more errors and DCS will launch normally.

 

Log info:

 

2019-05-20 23:44:44.050 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/aircraft/AV8BNA/bin/AV8B_AI.dll

2019-05-20 23:44:44.050 INFO CE2_AI: Loading CE AI

2019-05-20 23:44:44.051 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/aircraft/Christen Eagle II/bin/CE2_AI.dll

2019-05-20 23:44:44.052 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/aircraft/F14/bin/F14-AI.dll

2019-05-20 23:44:44.052 INFO MiG21_AI: Loading CE AI

2019-05-20 23:44:44.053 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21BIS/bin/MiG21_AI.dll

2019-05-20 23:44:44.055 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/services/CaptoGlove/bin/edCaptoGlove.dll

2019-05-20 23:44:44.057 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/tech/CombinedArms/bin/GroundCockpitBase.dll

2019-05-20 23:45:17.687 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/tech/CombinedArms/bin/CombinedArms.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:45:17.687 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/tech/CombinedArms/bin/CombinedArms.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:45:17.687 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module CombinedArms.dll

2019-05-20 23:45:51.423 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/A-10C/bin/A10.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:45:51.423 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/A-10C/bin/A10.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:45:51.423 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module A10.dll

2019-05-20 23:45:51.436 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/AV8BNA/bin/AV8B_CPT.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:45:51.438 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/AV8BNA/bin/AV8B_FM.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:46:25.471 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/Bf-109K-4/bin/Bf109K4.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:46:25.471 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/Bf-109K-4/bin/Bf109K4.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:46:25.471 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module Bf109K4.dll

2019-05-20 23:46:58.311 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/F-5E/bin/F5E.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:46:58.311 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/F-5E/bin/F5E.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:46:58.311 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module F5E.dll

2019-05-20 23:47:36.439 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/F-86/bin/F86.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:47:36.439 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/F-86/bin/F86.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:47:36.439 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module F86.dll

2019-05-20 23:47:36.442 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/F14/bin/F14-HeatblurCommon.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:47:36.471 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/F14/bin/F14-FlightModel.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:47:36.501 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/F14/bin/F14-Avionics.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:47:36.523 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/FA-18C/bin/FA18C.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:48:09.888 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/FW-190D9/bin/FW190D9.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:48:09.888 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/FW-190D9/bin/FW190D9.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:48:09.888 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module FW190D9.dll

2019-05-20 23:48:42.887 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/bin/FC3.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:48:42.887 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/bin/FC3.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:48:42.887 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module FC3.dll

2019-05-20 23:49:16.807 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/Ka-50/bin/Ka50.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:49:16.807 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/Ka-50/bin/Ka50.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:49:16.807 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module Ka50.dll

2019-05-20 23:49:50.767 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/L-39C/bin/L39C.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:49:50.767 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/L-39C/bin/L39C.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:49:50.767 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module L39C.dll

2019-05-20 23:49:50.770 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/M-2000C/bin/M2KC_FM.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:49:50.780 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/M-2000C/bin/M2KC_CPT.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:50:24.574 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/MIG-21bis/bin/FlightModel.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:50:24.574 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/MIG-21bis/bin/FlightModel.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:50:24.574 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module FlightModel.dll

2019-05-20 23:50:58.223 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/Mi-8MTV2/bin/Mi8.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:50:58.223 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/Mi-8MTV2/bin/Mi8.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:50:58.223 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module Mi8.dll

2019-05-20 23:51:32.126 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/bin/Mig15.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:51:32.126 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/bin/Mig15.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:51:32.126 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module Mig15.dll

2019-05-20 23:51:32.128 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/P-51D/bin/P51Base.dll

2019-05-20 23:52:06.895 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/P-51D/bin/P51B.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:52:06.895 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/P-51D/bin/P51B.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:52:06.895 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module P51B.dll

2019-05-20 23:52:06.903 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/SA342/bin/SA342.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:52:06.909 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/SpitfireLFMkIX/bin/SpitfireLFMkIX.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:52:06.911 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/TF-51D/bin/P51Base.dll

2019-05-20 23:52:06.911 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/TF-51D/bin/TF51D.dll

2019-05-20 23:52:06.913 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/TF-51D/bin/Cockpit_P51Common.dll

2019-05-20 23:52:41.455 ERROR EDCORE: LoadLibrary failed for ./Mods/aircraft/Uh-1H/bin/Uh1H.dll: (1114) A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:52:41.455 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to load ./Mods/aircraft/Uh-1H/bin/Uh1H.dll: A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed.

 

2019-05-20 23:52:41.455 ERROR WorldPlugIns: Can't load plugin module Uh1H.dll

2019-05-20 23:52:41.461 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/Yak-52/bin/Yak52.dll.crypt

2019-05-20 23:52:41.465 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/jsAvionics/bin/jsAvionics.dll

2019-05-20 23:52:41.512 INFO VISUALIZER: LAUNCH IN VR : OculusRift : Oculus Rift CV1

2019-05-20 23:52:41.567 INFO DX11BACKEND: Driver Concurrent Creates - 1

2019-05-20 23:52:41.567 INFO DX11BACKEND: Driver Command Lists - 1

2019-05-20 23:52:41.853 INFO DX11BACKEND: NVIDIA API init OK

2019-05-20 23:52:41.854 INFO DX11BACKEND: NVIDIA Display Driver Version 43064.r430_00

 

 

Also image views thru HMD are not moving around when going through SteamVR so it's only an issue while loading through pitool only.


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