humptydumpty Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) I am using an Intel Core 2 Quad 8200 @2.3 Ghz with 4GB RAM and a GT630 2GB DDR3 ( I bought used stuff as I can't afford a new system right now ) , before this I was using a Toshiba laptop which was an i5 2430m with 8GB DDR3 and a 1GB GT525m and during 1.5.6 I had amazing performance. But since the laptop motherboard has burnt due to a Chinese adaptor which had no earthing and was getting shocks when touching the laptop , I had to settle for the above used desktop. I know the 8200 and 4GB and also the GT630 are not that good but I am sure would get better performance in 1.5 than I did on the laptop. But that does not seem to be the case , the performance for me in 1.5.7 it's bad. I am not even looking for 40 fps , just want between 25-30 fps for the settings I use. Edited August 24, 2017 by humptydumpty [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Attitude Power Trim Power Attitude Trim Wing Commander SWAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cro_mig_21 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 With the newest update to 1.5.7 my situation got a lot better...no more periodic stutters and quite stable fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humptydumpty Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Now I have noticed that Threaded Optimization was chewing up fps, but I need to test further. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Attitude Power Trim Power Attitude Trim Wing Commander SWAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simapajik Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 After the last latest update, the fall fps. I've had 60 -100 fps. Now 20 fps. Version 1.5.7. Latest update. <White Tiger> [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simapajik Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Bad graphics card setup. Everything OK. <White Tiger> [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paura19 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 For me, worse performance at the airport with GTX 1080 than with 4 years old 770 and big stutter (30FPS drop every second). Tested on large mission //MB2 Server\\ Nevada looks smooth MB2 Czech DCS server. Youtube české Tutorialy Discrod MB2 1.Flight =UVP= Czech school of TOP GUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I have yet to try something busy with the 1.5.7.9 OB, but just using a simple sandbox air to air mission, I noticed that streaming/loading terrain/objects from HD, runs smoother again. In 1.5.7.8 I suffered from heavy load hits, they seem to be gone from 1.5.7.9 OB. Performance, fps wise, looks the same. But it was never a problem there, so. Its in the unit saturated missions were fps took a dive. Ill try those later. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tusler Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Glad to hear it is not just me having issues. I'm sure the dev's will get it straight eventually, they have plenty of feedback, thats for sure. LoL Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff :pilotfly:! PC=Win 10 HP 64 bit, Gigabyte Z390, Intel I5-9600k, 32 gig ram, Nvidia 2060 Super 8gig video. TM HOTAS WARTHOG with Saitek Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 yep 1.5.6 > 1.5.7 Hope they fix this sometime soon METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkLarien Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) did some testing I recently tested DCS 1.5 with new GPU. Only to be somewhat disappointed in performance improvement. Only time i had high FPS was when game was paused or map was almost empty of ground units. Baffled by this i did some testing. Edited Terrain setting files so that GPU is pretty much bored. BTW the menu item "visibility range" would benefit from whole advanced menu for itself since it does encompasses such massive amounts of tweaks related to GPU performance that anyone can make game pretty and smooth GPUwise....but i digress. Our problem is CPU bound. Although in windows task manager it might seem like it is utilized only half the time. (that is why folks are reporting low fps with low cpu and gpu usage) The indicators are most likely showing average usage. I used AMD overdrive for measurement, mostly watching heat and CPU is very much in use and heating up. Mostly single core usage. And i think the cause might be related to one/all/or combination of these : AI calculations Collision detection. Pathfinding I tried few scenarios (said units don't have to be visible therefore rendered): 1) Airplanes only fighting each other - dcs runs fine 2) Only 1 airplane (player) and more or less static ground units - shown impact on performance 3) Only 1 airplane (player) and ground units moving and fighting each other - boy oh boy. 4) All types of units fighting each other = slideshow. This correlates with reported performance boost when you create you own server on other PC and play the game as a connected client. Edited September 16, 2017 by DirkLarien Lightning livery for M2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightControl Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 OK guys ... So we got a new beta version last friday. There is improvements, but still stutters. And done this morning research what the stutters were about and found it. I have been looking into this problem very much, and I can resimulate it on the beta version 1.5.7.9891. And I think now the ROOT CAUSE had been found ... The issue seems to be with Patriot Batteries... I have made an extensive post here that documents in great detail where the issue is and a method to resimulate it using test missions. click here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3250554&postcount=166 [TABLE][sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]| Join MOOSE community on: DISCORD :thumbup: Website of the MOOSE LUA Framework. MOOSE framework Downloads. Check out Example Missions to try out and learn. MOOSE YouTube Channel for live demonstrations and tutorials. [/TABLE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlinebuzz Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 For me it's the shadows, any shadow is a real killer, the other settings don't affect much, but as soon as even flat shadows is turned on the stutter starts, only on Normandy though, Nevada is fine, strange... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkLarien Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I believe FlightControl (Moose) nailed it with his post in other topic. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3251046&postcount=23 Lightning livery for M2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldy Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Sorry for asking again... I'm still at 1.5.6.XXXX but I was just wondering if the FPS drops/stutters already fixed in the current 1.5.7.XXXX something? Thanks ^ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightControl Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Sorry for asking again... I'm still at 1.5.6.XXXX but I was just wondering if the FPS drops/stutters already fixed in the current 1.5.7.XXXX something? Thanks ^ The stuttering has been fixed. We found the root cause and ED fixed it. [TABLE][sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]| Join MOOSE community on: DISCORD :thumbup: Website of the MOOSE LUA Framework. MOOSE framework Downloads. Check out Example Missions to try out and learn. MOOSE YouTube Channel for live demonstrations and tutorials. [/TABLE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Sorry for asking again... I'm still at 1.5.6.XXXX but I was just wondering if the FPS drops/stutters already fixed in the current 1.5.7.XXXX something? Thanks ^ Some stuttering has been fixed (still get stutters in mi-8 every 3 seconds) oh, and MP servers now crash a lot with the latest 1.5.7.10175 patch (unplayable) METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Thanks^ I will try to update next time. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsy Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I have just located and read this thread today. Before the 1.5.7 update my frame rates were smooth, now I am also having some very bad frame rate drops in some missions. Ka-50 Clear Tkvarcheli used to run smooth at 60+ fps, now barely making above 15fps. At its worst 2fps. AJS37 training taxi mission at airport not exceeding 20fps when near trees and buildings etc. System specs are; Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz 32.0 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro GTX1080Ti-Strix GDDR5X 11GB Asus Rampage IV Extreme motherboard. I will keep a keen eye on any further posts however I am now relieved to hear it is not just me who is experiencing this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Nope it's definitely been recognised, more pronounced in complex missions (as is everything), server admins have been discussing this a lot. Quite a few rollbacks are happening. I have just located and read this thread today. Before the 1.5.7 update my frame rates were smooth, now I am also having some very bad frame rate drops in some missions. Ka-50 Clear Tkvarcheli used to run smooth at 60+ fps, now barely making above 15fps. At its worst 2fps. AJS37 training taxi mission at airport not exceeding 20fps when near trees and buildings etc. System specs are; Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz 32.0 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro GTX1080Ti-Strix GDDR5X 11GB Asus Rampage IV Extreme motherboard. I will keep a keen eye on any further posts however I am now relieved to hear it is not just me who is experiencing this problem. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkLarien Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I recently tested DCS 1.5 with new GPU. Only to be somewhat disappointed in performance improvement. Only time i had high FPS was when game was paused or map was almost empty of ground units. Baffled by this i did some testing. Edited Terrain setting files so that GPU is pretty much bored. BTW the menu item "visibility range" would benefit from whole advanced menu for itself since it does encompasses such massive amounts of tweaks related to GPU performance that anyone can make game pretty and smooth GPUwise....but i digress. Our problem is CPU bound. Although in windows task manager it might seem like it is utilized only half the time. (that is why folks are reporting low fps with low cpu and gpu usage) The indicators are most likely showing average usage. I used AMD overdrive for measurement, mostly watching heat and CPU is very much in use and heating up. Mostly single core usage. And i think the cause might be related to one/all/or combination of these : AI calculations Collision detection. Pathfinding I tried few scenarios (said units don't have to be visible therefore rendered): 1) Airplanes only fighting each other - dcs runs fine 2) Only 1 airplane (player) and more or less static ground units - shown impact on performance 3) Only 1 airplane (player) and ground units moving and fighting each other - boy oh boy. 4) All types of units fighting each other = slideshow. This correlates with reported performance boost when you create you own server on other PC and play the game as a connected client. Some fast test. I bought cheap used Intel CPU before : AMD Athlon2 x4 860K with R9 390 now : i5 3570 with same R9 390 I can report massive boost in performance (almost double the FPS) across the board in DCS. Where it was unplayable bellow 20fps in generated missions on AMD it is now smooth 60 or more. DCS is special beast other benchmarks aren't showing such a massive improvement. So if you are on some old system and have a tight budget i would recommend grab a used i5 2500 or similar. People are dumping them all over the place now. Would love to see DCS in benchmark on R3 1200. Lightning livery for M2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drexx Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) I have yet to see ANYTHING in 1.5.7 come CLOSE to approaching the speed that 1.5.6 ran (on multiplayer server metrics) (we lost roughly about 3x the engine power from 1.5.6, I can give you metrics if needed with thread speed). There is definitely a memory leak somewhere, I caught the server running 31.6 GIGS of memory the other day in a 4 hour session. I cant run my server on the newest patch either due to the weapons.dll crashing bug(its running the one just before). Right now its a buggy mess, Server has been scaled back in units, 3x less than in 1.5.6 - no boats, no large sam's, no AI, and its still really laggy when planes get near each other, they bump around, move left and right 5-10 feet at a time. Leaving the release version of the game at this state for weeks is bad, wish we can all go back to 1.5.6 and wait for 2.5 to tell you the serious truth. - Drex the guy who tests almost every element in the game with popular multiplayer server, works on them daily for OVER a year now. I just love this game and I am hurting seeing how it runs atm. Let me know how I can help. (also let me know when you will take me more serious on these forums with bug reports (I will follow your template perfectly for reporting them, I do this for a living for a fortune 500 company)) Edited October 10, 2017 by Drexx Developer of DDCS MP Engine, dynamicdcs.com https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=208608 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldy Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) ..guess I'll hold off updating to 1.5.7 for a while... ^^ ..kinda fearing 4+ hours of Downloading/updating would end up in frustration and regret when we have feedback that latest patch is still quite slow... ^^; Edited October 13, 2017 by pauldy [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmonalpha Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Hi, The most recent update has solved my bear trap campaign stutter Think DCS must have tweaked some things System Specs, Core i7 950 OC 4.2Ghz, 1.5TB Hdd, MSI GTX 980 Ti, 24GB Ram, WIN 10 64 Bit, 1000w PSU ,Trackir5, Thrustmaster Warthog:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erick Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) With this latest build 1.5.7, turning terrain shadows to "off" does NOT turn terrain shadows "off".....?? Deleting the "saved game" folder and letting it rebuild has no effect. Ground shadows are ever present. 1.5.7 is very, very stuttery and my cards are only running at about 35%. 2.1 NTTR is smooth and the cards are running at over 85%. I'm guessing we should just be waiting on the new caucaus map, which is totally ok if it will be running like 2.1 NTTR. Thx Edited October 15, 2017 by erick I7 4790k EVGA 1080ti FTW 16gb Corsair Dominator Acer Predator 2k 165hz Thrustmaster Pedals & Warthog TrackIr5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj3437 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 ^ I'm with you on waiting for 2.5. 1.5.6 is working very well right now for me and I am reluctant to do any updates yet. MJ msi Z170A MB, i7-6700k @ 4.0GHz, 32GB DDR4 GeForce GTX 970 4GB, Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB Acer Predator Z271, 650w PSU, Corsair Carbon500R, MS FFB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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