fitness88 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Thanks all, I'll give the OTT a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Still using the ODT, PD set it to 1.7 and 1.0 ingame and what a nice improvement in clarity. Also what I'm noticing is how as little as 1/8" adjustment of the Headset on your head can further make a big difference in clarity. All this with Mustang's new terrain release and it's a new sim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedStick Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Damnit. I can't get it to work. Wait, it doesnt work with beta? Is it possible to rollback without uninstalling all of oculus and apps? "Hard to imagine bigger engine. its got a beautiful face and an arse built like sputnik." - Pikey AKA The Poet, on 37 Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjer Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Yes - go to settings-> Beta -> uncheck the beta option Oculus home will Restart and "Update" the software and the driver to the stable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jozeff Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 So fitness88.....are you talking about the tray tool or the debug tool. Im getting a little confused since I used the debug tool and did not see any difference at all in pixel density. Im not running oculys in beta btw. The tray tool works fine though. Does the pixel density do the same thing in both the tray and debug tool? If thats the case I use the tray tool! Oh and, what 1/8 inch adjustment do you mean fitness88? Just curious. Thank you Jozeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaBoG32_Prinzartus Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I tried yesterday, but setting ingame to 1.0 and using ODT with setting 2.0 did not show any super-sampling. It seems as if the ODT setting was ignored. I did restart ther service and Oculus runtime. Windows 10, I7 8700k@5,15GHz, 32GB Ram, GTX1080, HOTAS Warthog, Oculus Rift CV1, Obutto R3volution, Buttkicker [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ЯБоГ32_Принз Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) So fitness88.....are you talking about the tray tool or the debug tool. Im getting a little confused since I used the debug tool and did not see any difference at all in pixel density. Im not running oculys in beta btw. The tray tool works fine though. Does the pixel density do the same thing in both the tray and debug tool? If thats the case I use the tray tool! Oh and, what 1/8 inch adjustment do you mean fitness88? Just curious. Thank you Jozeff I'm still using the Oculus Debug Tool and will eventually get the tray tool which will make it easier to impliment. But the order that I am now opening things is 1.ODT 2.Oculus Rift 3.DCS, with DCS set to 1.0 and after tweaking high and low with ODT/PD I stayed with 1.7. getting 70% of the time at 90FPS and 30% at 45FPS with ASW set to auto in ODT. Buildings are now really crisp and the mountains far off much clearer...I also just updated Mustang's terrain mod and it may be also helping...his mod is well worth installing. I'm referring to the OR headset, it tends to slide down a bit and that little bit makes a big difference in the clarity especially far off. Edited April 19, 2017 by fitness88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I tried yesterday, but setting ingame to 1.0 and using ODT with setting 2.0 did not show any super-sampling. It seems as if the ODT setting was ignored. I did restart ther service and Oculus runtime. What order are you opening your ODT, OR, DCS? Also I don't think PD 2.0 is beneficial, I think depending if your system can handle it 1.7 would be max. after that there's no gain that I can see. Before I went only to 1.5 but I'm getting better FPS at 1.7 using my current setup as mentioned previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearfoot Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 When experimenting, I typically cross-check. E.g., use Oculus Tray Tool to set PD to 1.5, restart the service, then launch Oculus Debug Tool to confirm that sampling shows 1.5. Or vice versa. Regardless, DCS should be launch last -- i.e., after all the fixin's and mixin's and service startin's and restartin's ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedStick Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Yes - go to settings-> Beta -> uncheck the beta option Oculus home will Restart and "Update" the software and the driver to the stable Thanks. Yeah read that before. The "public test channel" is not checked. But I have a "beta" text down in the left corner of home app. Do you know of any other way? Thjanks for the help. "Hard to imagine bigger engine. its got a beautiful face and an arse built like sputnik." - Pikey AKA The Poet, on 37 Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Thanks. Yeah read that before. The "public test channel" is not checked. But I have a "beta" text down in the left corner of home app. Do you know of any other way? Thjanks for the help. Checking or unchecking Public Test Channel is to volunteer for beta testing. I have it unchecked but I still have the Beta icon on the bottom of the Oculus page, I believe everyone has that. In the general tab the current version # is shown 1.13.####. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedStick Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Thanks fitness. Yeah I got that. Its unchecked. Just seems confusing to always have the beta tag in the corner. I've got 1.13. version but neither OTT nor debug settings seem to affect Dcs. I also seem to be stuck in an updateloop for Oculus Home app. I'm not really sure why it isn't working. Probably something stupid I'm forgetting. Edited April 20, 2017 by SpeedStick More info. "Hard to imagine bigger engine. its got a beautiful face and an arse built like sputnik." - Pikey AKA The Poet, on 37 Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnhard Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I've tested now, and there is no change in FPS nor visual quality using the tray tool in DCS contra using the built in 2x render option in DCS. It's the same :) Burnhard Periferals - HP Reverb - Viper/Warthog grip on VPC WarBRD base - Virpil Mogoos T-50 Throttle - MFG Crosswind rudders - Gametrix KW 908 // HW - 7700k@4.8 - 32GB@3200 - RTX2080TI // DCS Favourites - AJS37 - SA342 - F-16C :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) I've tested now, and there is no change in FPS nor visual quality using the tray tool in DCS contra using the built in 2x render option in DCS. It's the same :) With DCS first set PD to 1.0 then close DCS, you then open ODT set to whatever PD you want, you make sure you have ASW in auto mode, then you open the Oculus Rift and finally DCS. I can tell you that when PD in ODT is set to 2.0 v. 1.0 you will see a big frame rate hit...like very little 90FPS along with studder. I found my sweet spot at ODT PD of 1.7. With thanks I found with the help from others that the order of opening the 3 programs makes all the difference. Edited April 20, 2017 by fitness88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulcrum_64th Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 does one need to close the ODT (after having set PD and ASW) before opening oculus rift main app ? :pilotfly: win 10x64 - Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero - I9 9900K@5.0GHz - Samsung 970 EVO m2 2TB - RAM Corsair 64GB DDR4 - Corsair H150i pro - Strix RTX 2080 Ti- oculus rift S and a few other goodies :joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJoe Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 does one need to close the ODT (after having set PD and ASW) before opening oculus rift main app ? You have to leave it open for the settings to remain in effect. You can miminize it if needed, but keep it running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearfoot Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) You have to leave it open for the settings to remain in effect. You can miminize it if needed, but keep it running. The Oculus Debug Tool? This does not seem to to be the case. E.g., I can set PD of 1.5 in the tool. Restart the Oculus service. Then quit the tool. Then even reboot if I feel like it. Then start DCS without starting the tool (or Oculus Tray Tool), and get the PD of 1.5 (cross-checked by independently launching Oculus Tray Tool if I set the PD using the Oculus Debug Tool or vice versa). That is, it seems to "take" once set, whether or not the tool is subsequently active. EDIT: Now that I think about it, I think use the Oculus Tray Tool to set the PD above, not the the debug tool. And that setting definitely persists through multiple reboot cycles, without the tray tool needing to be subsequently active. Need to check if the same holds for the debug tool alone. Edited April 21, 2017 by Bearfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayos Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I see no difference between doing it with the tool or in DCS. If anything I thought doing it in the tool was worse. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMEDooley Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I started testing this before I went TDY and I wasn't using that order. I'll try again when I get home. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Actually I downloaded the Oculus Tray Tool new version 0.68.1.0...some nice features that the Oculus Debug Tool doesn't have making it worth going after! Also as was told to me this is a fire and forget program, once set you don't have to fiddle with it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drexx Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Actually I downloaded the Oculus Tray Tool new version 0.68.1.0...some nice features that the Oculus Debug Tool doesn't have making it worth going after! Also as was told to me this is a fire and forget program, once set you don't have to fiddle with it anymore until the next oculus update... lol Developer of DDCS MP Engine, dynamicdcs.com https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=208608 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 until the next oculus update... lol Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haukka81 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Ok i tried this Debug tool last night . i can confirm its no a placebo thing , there is definitely a noticeable sharpness in the cockpit text . on top of that i can read the some of the stuff better like the Radar screen in the F15. i dont know how is it possible but it does. also i noticed that the game performance is better. another thing, there is an option in the debug tool regarding GPU adaptive performance. what you guys set it to? i set mine to disable. I think that DCS options PD will add some Blur etc..when it downsamples bit like NVIDIA DSR (there is option to add Blur or softening) Debug tool just downsamples but wont soften edges etc.. thats why its more crisp. But i cant be sure, maybe someone (ed) knows better. Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbers_ Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Placibo Twitch2DCS - Bring twitch chat into DCS. SplashOneGaming.com - Splash One is a community built on combat flight simulation. S1G Discord twitch / youtube / facebook / twitter / discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epolta Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Jabbers, I have to agree.... don't want to start a flame war here but I couldn't tell a bit of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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