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  • 4 weeks later...
Tiny updates:

 

As you may already know, Razbam AV-8B N/A will be out on Nov 29. Our China Asset Pack will also be released on the coming update, in which, J-11A, 052B and 054A will be included for its debut.

Meanwhile, one of our modelers is hard working on the 052C and its anti-ship missile YJ-62.

Besides, to expand the PLAAF units, we decided to make KJ-2000 based on Eagle Dynamic's A-50 model.

We will try our best to make both be included soon.

 

[He Is back!!] Another modeler has finished the collision model of JF-17, and now moves to the final stages of JF-17 modeling.

For EFM testing and visuliazation purpose, programmers wanted him to make the damage animations for all external components.

However, he refused - he still dares not to see any 'debris' since last 'family event' ;).

As a concession, he added damage status indicators for each damage component.

 

Different color of the ball represents different damage level:

1. green: light damage;

2. blue: moderate damage;

3. red: heavy damage;

4. black: critical damage;

And damage model (DM) now has been successfully integrated into our EFM.

.... (silently) we will definitely add the damage animation at the end ;)

Thanks, and enjoy your weekend.

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Много текста с фейсбука. Поможете с переводом?

 

Если кратко - внешнюю модель JF-17 закончили, с внутренним убранством сложней, плюс еще системы делать надо (вообще сотрудничают с пакистанцами). Так же готовят китайский авакс KJ-2000. Хотят в 2018 все сделать...

Our Development Plan in 2018

Happy New Year, everyone!

 

Since the announcement of the DCS: JF-17, all our developers have been very pleased with the DCS community’s attention and enthusiasm. We are thrilled to be given such recognition in our work. We will be pushing ourselves forward in the following year and many more to come.

 

With the growing numbers of the DCS third party teams, they've brought various aircrafts to the player. As for us, a very new addition to the DCS world, a lot of pressure have been brought to us in order to keep up with the quality levels of those well reputed teams. We, as well as many players, have experienced that with some products, the sky is the limit. We look forward to investing all that we can to bring you the best products we can offer. For the DCS: JF-17 project, we are proud to announce that the external model has been finished, and we are very satisfied with the accuracy of the model.

 

The development process was able to run smoothly by the following reasons:

1. During that period, our external modeler was not technically married to his current wife.

2. Chinese Aviation Museum located in Beijing, China, currently has an FC-1 on display.

3. Long live the friendship between China and Pakistan.

4. Our photographer friends generously provided us with hundreds of gigabytes of JF-17 photos for our reference.

 

Unfortunately, our cockpit modeler doesn’t have the same kind of luck. There isn’t much document or photos for cockpit reference at the very beginning, especially for: control panel, ejection seat, control stick, sizes and positions of cockpit devices. The outcome from different production batches of the real aircrafts did not help with our modeling process either. Aircrafts of different batches and different tail numbers were of slightly off from each other. However, we still believe that with a little harder work and dedication we will be able to finish the cockpit model with our current documents. During the early stage of development, there were some “errors” in tiny details that we believe no one would notice, but we insisted on correcting them when documents became available to us. However, the perfectionism has costed us much more time and workload.

 

Next, let’s talk about the simulation. Since JF-17 is a multi-role fighter aircraft, it equipped with a KLJ-7 multi-function radar. It is a small but still capable radar, with 7 different A2A modes: RWS, TWS, VS, ACM, SAM, STT and DTT, as well as several A2S modes, such as AGR, MAP, BCN, GMTI, SEA1, SEA2, TA, and WA. Currently, we've finished targets detection, track and lock in A2A and A2G modes. Our next work will focus on drawing interface and implement related HOTAS logic for those radar modes, as well as the transition between those modes under different conditions. In conclusion, this “tiny” (less than 120 kg) X band multi-function Doppler fire control radar will cost us great amount of work. The work is well worthy, since it is the handful multi-function radar in DCS: World.

 

After radar, let’s discuss about another highlight part of JF-17: it’s digital/mechanical hybrid flight control system. This system can not only act as a safeguard for the rookies, but also can make sure the experienced pilots focus on his battle. It can change its control law based on different stages of the flight such as takeoff/landing, combat and A2A/A2G missions. We demonstrated some features of the flight control system last year and we already finished most working modes in DFCS (digital flight control system). After DFCS, we will start working on EFCS (Emergency Flight Control System). As a backup for the DFCS, EFCS will take over DFCS’s job when DFCS has malfunctions. Of course, you’d better RTB immediately when you have to use EFCS. Another important part of the simulation is the flight performance, such as aerodynamic characteristics, center of gravity characteristics, weight characteristics and thrust characteristics. Currently we are working on matching excessive thrust characteristics (Thrust minus drag) with document under standard configuration of the aircraft. RD-93 is a Russian made turbofan afterburner engine, we get it’s thrust data from our Pakistan friend. But if we want to calculate its thrust when its installed on the aircraft, we must consider total pressure distortion and dynamic distortion of the inlet, suction of the boundary layer, thrust loss due to nozzle malfunction, power extraction to generators and bleed air system, etc. We are performing calculation under these conditions, our simulations of the remaining thrust characteristics in different height with half fuel, clean loadout is accurate. Next, we’ll working on calculate aircraft’s drag in different loadout. We will consider the drag change when a same loadout mounted on different load points, and aerodynamic interference between different loadouts, etc.

 

Regarding the sub-system of the aircraft, I want to start with the damage model. We already finish the damage part subdivision and the test of the damage determination. DCS: JF-17 has 66 different damageable parts and each part has its damage effect related to aircraft aerodynamics, equipment and systems. this will depend on what equipment/systems are located on the damaged part, and depend on what equipment/systems are connected to the equipment/systems on the damaged part. Here is a very simple example, when the main landing gear bay is damaged, not only the hydraulic and pneumatic devices will be affected, landing gear’s position sensor and the main gear’s load sensor may also malfunction. Thus, DFCS’s approaching control law may not be activated, which leads to a different landing control characteristic compared to a normal landing.

 

This refined pattern of damage model involves every piece of equipment on the aircraft, and for our avionics, all of the subsystems must be completed and associated. For a fully functional modern multi-purpose fighter, the workload is tremendous, but for our leader of the avionics group, who is physically in China while works in US time zone, this is not a problem.

 

Before the last, I want to talk about China Asset Pack. The original intention of the China Asset Pack is actually very simple, not only the welfare for Chinese players, but also for world-wide players. We therefore adhere to a simple principle: an addon free of charge. But free does not mean shoddy - our members kept on improving and testing the China Asset Pack during the national holidays, giving up personal vacations and running out of many bottles of hair growth shampoo.

 

Currently we are aiming to fully dedicate our effort in the JF-17 project, therefore the updates for the China Asset Pack will slow down. However, we are pleased to see several community members volunteering to contribute to the China Asset Pack. In the near future, we plan to release the KJ-2000 AWACS AI based on the A50 provided by ED, and KJ-200 AWACS AI developed by Zeyuan Fan. We hope to see their efforts will bring more Chinese units to DCS World.

 

Lastly, we greatly appreciate all your attentions and support for our projects. Although we are not able to provide frequent updates, our work never stops. DCS: JF-17 project has been undertaking smoothly as planned. We welcome our supporters to follow us on Facebook, YouTube, Weibo, and Bilibili for our official news and updates. Please be aware that these are our only official channels.

 

We hope to bring you the best of our work in 2018!

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Уточню, KJ-2000 будет входить в бесплатный пак, который у нас уже есть у всех. Пак будет дополняться. Это радует. Переводить лень :noexpression: :(

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Немного новостей + доп инфа

 

Hi everyone,

It's been a long time no update. Since we've officially started the work for half year, there are still many things we need to explore, study and get familiar with. Also, our members enjoyed a long break during Chinese New Year in Feb.

 

Since March, our programmers have been busy working on the architecture of the big MFCD rendering code. The MFCD of JF-17 can work as an entire screen, and can also display info into split screens [a square one plus a small rectangle one below]. Therefore, a good code structure design can greatly reduce the complexity and future workload of our ASM programmers. Our artists are still finishing and refining the external and internal models of thunder. Matching the quality level of model and texture of other 3rd parties is a challenging task, but our modelers are filled with fighting will! Sorry that for JF-17 there is no picture ready to share with you this time.

 

Regarding CAP, we are moving forward a bit slowly. Fortunately, there are several volunteers help us expand the pack. Here are some WIP pictures of KJ-200 from Biller, and a WIP YJ-62 for 052C. We are contacting Silver Dragon for adding his Pr. 205 and SY-1 into CAP. We've also discussed with ED about flyable J-11A. If we have any news, we would like to share with you. Like most players, we would like to see flyable J-11A to enrich the 'Red' force. To make it able to appear in both sides in MP match, we added J-11A to AUSAF (fictional!) and made a few new skins (fictional too!).

 

At the end, thanks for your patience and support so far!

 

 

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Управляемый J-11A будет просто шик!

 

Хоть китайцы сделают Фланкер с ракетами с АРГСН... А если кликабельный... я буду рыдать и смеяться одновременно :D

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Хоть китайцы сделают Фланкер с ракетами с АРГСН... А если кликабельный... я буду рыдать и смеяться одновременно :D

 

Главное чтобы по китайски у них это все не вышло..

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Хоть китайцы сделают Фланкер с ракетами с АРГСН... А если кликабельный... я буду рыдать и смеяться одновременно :D

 

:D :thumbup: предел мечтаний )) и ещё, если Китайскую Риту сделают, вообще шик!

 

 

Внимание на момент 0:29 :lol: это просто что то

 

Главное чтобы по китайски у них это все не вышло..

 

Очень надеюсь что они лицом в грязь не ударят

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Очень надеюсь что они лицом в грязь не ударят

 

Им сейчас надо FC-1 довести, потом будем смотреть)

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Им сейчас надо FC-1 довести, потом будем смотреть)

 

) Ну это да, ждём с нетерпением

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А там и J-16:)

 

)) Так и до J-20/31 можно дойти (щюткэ :)) В крайнем случае J-10 ))

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Last tease before summer.

We are planning AI aircraft of J-10A, JH-7A and H-6H (A volunteer just started H-6D, and hope we will have this too to shoot YJ-6). These three models are early works from our artists made years ago. Since now they need to focus on JF-17 models, another junior artist will finish all details and export them to DCS on his pace.

To make more progress on JF-17 and show something to you after F/A-18C early access, we will start emissions control after today ????

 

 

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Мне кажется, или китайцы набрали темп? У них там плантация художников и полные подвалы программистов? :D Нет серьезно, сколько их там?

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Короч, все профильные Фланкероводы пересаживаются на китайца... одни преимущества, никаких ограничений... впрочем, возможно как и в жизни...

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Если в перспективе они и за ASM возьмутся, готов купить отдельно от ГС3.

 

+1 Думаю очередь выстроилась уже, несмотря на заявления ED о нерентабельности красных самолетов

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+1 Было бы очень здорово asm и кликабельность

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