StrikeMax Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 OK, there are almost 20 variants of the mig 21, confusing!! When Chizh made the comparison bet the rendered model posted earlier and the real thing I think he used the f13 variant. So I decided to do it. This is the result of today's session. Basic geometry before refinement of thr fuselage and the uncut canopy. I am posting this for your geometry check before I spend more time. ( my flanker is unhappy today :D). 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 lol sweet, so u decided to take on this project as well? Yea your flanker would be unhappy...btw, any updates on the flanker? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hell Sqn Protos Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 S~! Well done StrikeMax. Rep inbound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 woah! finally....thanks soo much strikemax. :D you have earned another rep point. Comeon guys.....lets give strikemax what we promised. :) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 just a little comment strikemax....why don't you do the latest variant of the mig 21. It is the one in use currently. maybe the bis variant?? or the famous lancer "fishbed" variant ??? http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/63/6342/gallery/water_34782.jpg BUT no complains.....:)...as long as it is a 21. :) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Comeon guys.....lets give strikemax what we promised. :) lol i can't give anymore rep points to him. I need to spread it around before going back to him. :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 lol! same here..:D ..but hopefully...the others will pitch in ;) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Rep inbound StrikeMax. You are our only hope :worthy: :notworthy: :worthy: I just don't get it why F-13 but OK, like Witchking said: "MiG-21 is MiG-21". I wonder what version of the newer 21s is the most popular - MF, BIS or SMT? StrikeMax! If You need any help with skinning or something (:P it's a little too early, I know) give a call here. Maybe I or any other of us could try in some part at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Oh please don't do the early version of the MiG... do MF or BIS version....pleeeeease :( No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat1974 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Why don't you guys ask for help in SFP1 community. If there is something they know to do... is create very good models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 not to mention the Microsoft flight sim group also know how to build pretty good models. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Oh! Ok! The F-13 variant 'cuz Georgia has this :doh:. Good then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Chizh Posted November 16, 2006 ED Team Share Posted November 16, 2006 OK, there are almost 20 variants of the mig 21, confusing!! When Chizh made the comparison bet the rendered model posted earlier and the real thing I think he used the f13 variant. So I decided to do it. This is the result of today's session. Basic geometry before refinement of thr fuselage and the uncut canopy. I am posting this for your geometry check before I spend more time. ( my flanker is unhappy today :D). It's more correct model MiG-21F-13 than previous. I see that vertical stab haven't correct in shape. Also I have advised to pay attention tail part as a whole. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltar Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Guys I don't know much about modelling, but as SK mentioned MS Flight simulator has pluggins to fly MIG-21. Long back i downloaded one such plugin...I don't remember the site now. I have not tried it on MS FS 2002 / 2004 but its for Bis or MF versions. If the modelling guys can extract the model out of it and use (reuse ;) ) it will be great. Attaching the zip with the post. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayets Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 F version must be the ugliest shape 21 ever had. Must be an MF/bis or something. It's like a Chinese J. [sIGPIC]OK[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Tail details of F-13 Pic from Airliners.net. StrikeMax for sure knows where to look after documentary. Worn-out and in little angle but shows clearly all details. [ATTACH]8461[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 It's more correct model MiG-21F-13 than previous. I see that vertical stab haven't correct in shape. Also I have advised to pay attention tail part as a whole. So Chizh, is the F-13 the variant you are implementing??? If thats the one you guys want to do........F-13 it is. :D...its still the legendary MIG 21. :D No complaining but my preference would be the lancer or fishbed. nuff said :p.......I'm just happy that finally we are looking like we will get a mig 21 in game. :D WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Blueprints f-13 Blueprints small but better than nothing in herehttp://21club.neostrada.pl/profiles_f13_pl.html. MiG-21F-13 Cannon NR-30. Engine: R-11 F-300 with 5750kG of thrust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikeMax Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 It's more correct model MiG-21F-13 than previous. I see that vertical stab haven't correct in shape. Also I have advised to pay attention tail part as a whole. Yes Chizh, this is a 1 session draft. I wanted to check the general geometry before i detail. For the tail there are 2 bridges/transitions, one at base of tail/ (front) with the fuselage which i did. This should be repeated again at the brak point of the tail (at the end of the leading triang shape) which I will take care of in the second session, the rest of the tail is easy. thanks for the input. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikeMax Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Gents, re F13. Lets not disagree on the variant. The Idea is to make this basic one correctly, and conforming to the standards of ED. means we get the slot. then we make as many variants as we want. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Gents, re F13. Lets not disagree on the variant. The Idea is to make this basic one correctly, and conforming to the standards of ED. means we get the slot. then we make as many variants as we want. cheers :) We won't disagree, n'est-pas gents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Feedback Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 No complaints from me whatsoever. More models=coolness Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayets Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 No complaints here :music_whistling: [sIGPIC]OK[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F l a n k e r Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I still prefer the MF or bis version. The F-13 was phased out of service in 1980 (was the real first production aircraft, in 1959)... and moreover is the uglyest version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504MrWolf Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 2nd that............:) www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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