Gault05 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range air-to-air missile based on the Phoenix predecessor? DCS status: Case:NZXT S340 Mid Tower;Motherboard:MSi 970 Gaming DDR3 ATX;CPU:AMD FX-8350 8-Core Unlocked with Hyper 212 Evo heatsink;Memory:Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3;Hard Drive:Samsung 640GB;SSD: Crucial 256GB;Sound:Asus Xonar DGX; Power: EVGA 600W B1 80+;OS:Windows 10 64-bit; GPU: MSI Radeon RX 570 8GB 256-bit Modules: Flaming Cliffs 3, P-51D, Combined Arms, Black Shark 3, A-10C/2, WW2 Assets, F/A-18C, F-16C Viper, AH-64D, Supercarrier, China Assets Pack Maps: Persian Gulf, Syria, Marianas, Sinai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 i wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range infantry weapon based on the medieval pike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emu Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range air-to-air missile based on the Phoenix predecessor? Meteor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emu Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 i wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range infantry weapon based on the medieval pike? Ballistic knife?:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 i wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range infantry weapon based on the medieval pike? Couldn't help yourself, eh?? ;) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Swan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Don't mind these guys :D I don't think we will see a new kind of Phoenix missle, but as far as a replacement for its role as a long range missile the US is developing new stuff. There is a planned variant on the amraam which would add a ramjet, which I assume would add significant range. The new D model amraam has a significant boost in range and is getting close to what the Phoenix could do. Combined with modern jammers, the effective range isn't much different (at least that's what I would think) GeForce GTX 970, i5 4690K 3.5 GHz, 8 GB ram, Win 10, 1080p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Meteor.. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixen Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Meteor missile comes close in range and the aim-120D also has a very long range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Who needs a long range air to air missile when you have SM-6s and off-board targeting? Lord of Salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 when the missile costs as much as the plane you have to wonder its practicality. :D 1 [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 when the missile costs as much as the plane you have to wonder its practicality. :D Meteor vs J-7? :megalol: Lord of Salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 The AIM-54 Phoenix was a planned successor, the AIM-152 AAAM, but was cancelled at the end of Cold War on 1992. http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-152.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I think any future weapons systems will be based on improving current designs verses creating something entirely...There are plenty of letters in the alphabet... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emu Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Meteor missile comes close in range and the aim-120D also has a very long range. Meteor is rated around 300km, '3 times NEZ of AIM-120C-5'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 and the thing will be carried by Gripens. Ming boggling. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixen Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Meteor is rated around 300km, '3 times NEZ of AIM-120C-5'. Meteor has longer range for sure. But we don't know all the actual numbers since they are classified. AIM-120C-8 (D) is the newest version IIRC (might still be prototype, I don't know), which also starts going towards 200km range. Optimal ranges ofcourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 and the thing will be carried by Gripens. Ming boggling. Why? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Imagine an F-5 tiger carrying AIM-54's. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Imagine an F-5 tiger carrying AIM-54's. It's nothing like that. Does the Meteor NEZ extend beyond the detection range of the Gripen? That's not even talking about the 2 way missile datalink, P2P data link, buddy homing and all the other Meteor goodies etc. Respectfully, I doubt you know better than the aircraft engineers. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 lol I was not intending to go into another academic discussion. You know what I meant. Besides Im finaly too old and dont care :) [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 lol dont give up pilotasso:) Why no more MP flying? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I work in the aerospace sector, and its like working in medical emergencies. A Highly stressfull job and I pick the fights more carefully now. :) waiting for DCS 2.0 to go public + new rig soon, so I can return to MP with a clean setup. So, soon now, soon. before anyone aks, yes I will post a thread for the build, it will be something worth seeing. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emu Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 It's nothing like that. Does the Meteor NEZ extend beyond the detection range of the Gripen? That's not even talking about the 2 way missile datalink, P2P data link, buddy homing and all the other Meteor goodies etc. Respectfully, I doubt you know better than the aircraft engineers. It doesn't have to be the firing aircraft illuminating the target, which is why the Meteor is the perfect weapon for a mixed 4th/5th gen fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 when the missile costs as much as the plane you have to wonder its practicality. :D Price of plane is nothing compared to price of pilot..... Shoot down a couple pilots KIA, and rest of pilots starts to have stress level higher for next missions and mission designs are started to be revised and maybe even avoided. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emu Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 And it takes time and money to select and train a pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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