GGTharos Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Well they worked well for me last time I flew a flanker which was ... first time after like a year's break ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selu_99 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 Ive made the following experiment: F-15 vs 4xMig 23 (i think) and SU-27 vs 4xMig 23 ReSuLtS: F-15vs... Killed four planes in most cases, and evaded missiles easily by doing up-down yo yos. SU-27vs...Killed in most cases 3 or 2, and didnt get to evade all missiles... WHY DID I GET THESE RESULTS?? and secondly i made another experiment... su27 vs f15... F15 missiles seem harder to evade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selu_99 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 what u think about results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostie Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 pick one of these: 1. Your tactics maybe preferable to F15. 2. You've flown F15 more than Su. 3. You got lucky with Eagle. 4. You were unlucky with Flanker. 5. You fixed it to prolong this study. 6. Some other unfounded reason that makes you a worse Flanker pilot than Eagle. 7. Eagle is better than Flanker. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selu_99 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 pick one of these: 1. Your tactics maybe preferable to F15. quote] and what tactics make SU.27 prefearable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostie Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 :huh: The ones were you don't die. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRZ Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Ok. you have forgot to mention the fact that . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Su27 pilots have longer sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selu_99 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 ok thanks:thumbup: i know know why f15 was better in my tests. Is because russian pilots drunk vodka before flying. I stupid i am not to realise that fact:doh: c'mon seriously... now ive tried FALCON 2.0... still f15 seems to always beat me!:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 You do -not- want to go up against an F-15 BVR in a little F-16. The F-15 will mug you and fly away laughing. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selu_99 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 You do -not- want to go up against an F-15 BVR in a little F-16. f-16:huh: :lol: its a su-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selu_99 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 Which plane (flanker or eagle) is better in BVR? and in medium range? and in close range? which one has the most difficult evading missiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IguanaKing Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Eagle. Well...its the only PROVEN platform in this BVR competition anyway. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selu_99 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 thanks, and what about the other questions? Are u saying f15 is the best in all:) ? I repeat questions: Which plane (flanker or eagle)... 1.-is better in BVR? 2.-is better in medium range? 3.-is better in close range? 4.-has the most difficult evading missiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IguanaKing Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 As I said...the Eagle is the only one of the two with a proven combat record, BVR. WVR its going to depend on altitude and speed. Neither aircraft is superior in all realms. It all comes down to combat tactics, as was mentioned in the other thread from which this one spawned. GG mentioned the F-16 getting mugged, and that's true high and fast. Drag the Eagle down low in WVR and he's going to be limping home with his tail tucked between his legs. But, then again, cockpit automation and pilot training is about equal between the Eagle and Viper. The same can't be said of the Eagle and Flanker. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selu_99 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 and which one do you prefer?? (flanker or eagle?) just say one, no it depends;) WHICH ONE DO U PREFER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IguanaKing Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 IF I were to fly either one, I prefer the Eagle. It has American avionics, and those are the ones I have been flying with/fixing for the last 18 years. Its extremely difficult to unlearn what you have known for such a long time. Granted, I regularly fly Eastern aircraft IRL as well, but not NEARLY as often as Western aircraft. I'm a LOMAC Hog driver, fighter guys keep me safe from enemy aircraft while I take out the ground forces trying to take our air bases. Its a symbiotic relationship. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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