Pocket Sized Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 My favorite thing about the Viggen is that it strikes a fantastic balance between capability and ease of use. You can get a lot done, but you really have to stay on top of the aircraft. (For instance, the Rb 05 is very accurate but only if you practice with it a lot, Bk 90 is totally OP but only if you take care of the navigation system, etc) DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk72 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 My first "Jet" module for DCS and i'm loving her, the curves,the sound and the feel...Oh and the module is fantastic as well. You have done a fantastic job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yappo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Thanks, Cobra! This best aircraft in DCS! CPU: i7-8700K @5200MHz / RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 2x16GB @3500MHz CL15 / MB: ASUS PRIME Z370-A / GPU: ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 / DCS-Storage: Samsung 960Evo 500GB / Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog + T.Flight Rudder Pedals [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaXha Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Thanks, Cobra! This best aircraft in DCS! Wait a minute! That's one hell of a Maverick shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 :lol: Reminded me of this scene: bKsreHMX3xE Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 That's the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangi Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 That's the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Yeah, what movie is it from so I know to never bother watching it? PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Yeah, what movie is it from so I know to never bother watching it? I think its Behind Enemy Lines from 2001. Its soo stupid that Hollywood keeps doing stupid scenes like that... When Top gun proved you can be more realistic when it comes to missiles and still have very intense combat scenes... They could have that scene be just as intense (or more) by making it simply many Realistic missile launches (3-4 missiles forcing him evasive until one of the hit him etc) instead of that stupid chase scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yappo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Tactical missile :) CPU: i7-8700K @5200MHz / RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 2x16GB @3500MHz CL15 / MB: ASUS PRIME Z370-A / GPU: ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 / DCS-Storage: Samsung 960Evo 500GB / Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog + T.Flight Rudder Pedals [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalahama Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Tactical missile :) That one could actually be a feature - if the missile doesn't find anything it just crashes at the last pre-planned waypoint, it makes sense. Let see what's the opinion from the experts. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) I wondered how many would try to use this Self destruct feature as a impromptu Cruise missile xD. It depends on what exactly the Self Destruct in the RB 15F is programmed to do. If it would cause the Missile to Detonate mid air the yes this would be Do-Able and realistic. If it would cause the missile to crash with a live warhead causing the warhead to Detonate yes this would be Doable. If it would cause the Missile To crash after rendering the Warhead safe/inert then it would be less likely to work realistically. Only question for me is the risk the radar would mis-identify something on land as a ship and hit it though with the modern nature of the Seeker of the RB 15 i assume that risk to be smaller. If either of the first are true for the way the missile works then this is a fully valid / realistic use (though it might not be intended use / doctrine) and will be interesting to see how people decide to use it. My guess is it wont be too uncommon in MP to see ppl try to use it as an Anti-Runway/Anti Airfield Cruise Missile by making it self destruct over an airfield as shown in this video. Edited February 1, 2017 by mattebubben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Don't think that's how it's intended to work. Then again, I don't know the missile logic for not finding a group while Bx9 (self destruct point) is not defined. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The RBS-15 MkIII has land attack capability, with GPS, of course (outside of the AJS-37). http://www.diehl.com/fileadmin/diehl-defence/user_upload/flyer/RBS15_e_03_2012.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Sure, but that weapon is pretty far from what we have. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renhanxue Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 It depends on what exactly the Self Destruct in the RB 15F is programmed to do. The self-destruct mechanism simply arms the warhead and pitches down with max possible control surface authority, so yes, the missile will slam into the ground/sea and trigger the impact fuze. SFI AJS 37 del 3, page 101 in the PDF. Actually using it to attack ground targets is definitely not intended, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Right, but note that in the video he's setting Bx8 on the target, not Bx9. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 ooh he was?. Then it was not correct. But if its possible to the same with Bx9 that would be correct. Though not intended ofc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) The thing is, it looks like there's an elevation in terrain right before they explode. Maybe it's just trying to sea skim and flies into the ground. The warhead arms 250 meters away from the target, and will detonate upon impact, so they would explode in that scenario. Edited February 1, 2017 by Corrigan Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalahama Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 But if its possible to the same with Bx9 that would be correct. This, and also adding the behaviour renhanxue pointed out - not impacting precisely on BX9 but pitching down after passing BX9 and then impacting randomly with the ground after that point Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaXha Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) **AJS-37 Viggen Released in Open Beta!** That one could actually be a feature - if the missile doesn't find anything it just crashes at the last pre-planned waypoint, it makes sense. Let see what's the opinion from the experts. Regards The Rb 15F MkI and MkII that the Viggen carries can't fly over land at all since the fusing AFAIK is not adapted for that and it doesn't have GPS to keep track of its position. Just like the Rb 04E it has a downwards facing proximity fuse that detonates when over flying the ship it locks onto. This means the missile (Probably) would detonate as soon as it started flying over terrain. That being said, the 4th waypoints of the Rb 15F is the self destruct waypoint, if no ship has been detected by its radar it will fly to this waypoint and self destruct. This MIGHT be what we see here. :-) Edit: so I guess the fuse isn't armed until it detects a target or when reaching the self destruct point. Edited February 1, 2017 by RaXha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renhanxue Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Edit: so I guess the fuse isn't armed until it detects a target or when reaching the self destruct point. Correct. It can most definitely fly over land, that's one of the big selling points. The SFI has several illustrations and example mission profiles that show this and it is explicitly stated that it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Was planning to wait for the release into the stable branch, but I just couldnt wait anymore, so I installed 1.56 Beta, and downloaded the Viggen. And boy am I glad I did. You guys are absolutely insane. The level of detail in this bird is just mind bugling. I spent the last 1½ hour just flying around looking at the Viggen, inside and out, in different light. I was just quickly jumping in to map essential controls and buttons, but just couldnt get myself to escape out. I just had to fly around and look at this masterpiece, and flip switches with great anticipation to what might happen. In all my years of computer gaming (and that is a little over 30 years now), I have never been this sucked into it. The amount of detail is jaw dropping, be it model, textures, light effects, material definitions, or sounds. I cant say much about the flight model, since that is not my strength. You could make it fly like a cardboard box in the wind and say thats how it flies, and Id believe you, hehe. But the art and sounds, well I have eyes and ears, and just wow. Im tipping my hat for the Leatherneck's. Thank you for this wonderful new toy :thumbup: 1 - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoonerTC Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Stupid Q, is this now released in the normal version not the Beta, just updated all 3 installs and was able to install viggen in stable 1.5.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 stable is still 1.5.5 open beta is viggen version 1.5.6 open alpha has now the spitfire 2.0.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaXha Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Stupid Q, is this now released in the normal version not the Beta, just updated all 3 installs and was able to install viggen in stable 1.5.6 There is no stable 1.5.6, stable is still 1.5.5 and doesn't have the Viggen. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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