Blown tire problem

[Zimmerdylan]

Hey guys. I have been dealing with this "tire blowing" issue since the last update. I know that it's not uncommon as I see all of the posts pertaining to it.

So.....is it a reported bug? I've not heard anyone address it as such. If it's not, how do I avoid blowing tires upon takeoff these days? I've tried just about everything. Every time I take off this happens. It seems that as soon as I start to raise the nose of the AC......Blewey!:dunno:

[BIGNEWY]

attach a track showing the problem and we will take a look.

 

Loads of other threads about this with other aircraft also, however all tracks I have see so far are over weight, over speed, or have been putting to much stress on one side during landing or takeoff

[MBot]

Can't supply a track either, but playing online last Saturday I had for the first time ever a blown tire on take off. Twice. Once with the F-5E and later with the MiG-21. Both aircraft with full fuel and no external stores or fuel tanks. The F-5E happened at about 150 knots and the MiG at about 300 kph, both during rotation.

[Coxy_99]

[ATTACH]152576[/ATTACH]

 

@Bignewy did some F-5 testing also i got a blow out above 180 fully loaded. Other than the one puncture i had no more.

[Zimmerdylan]

attach a track showing the problem and we will take a look.

 

Loads of other threads about this with other aircraft also, however all tracks I have see so far are over weight, over speed, or have been putting to much stress on one side during landing or takeoff

 

Will do this evening. Tracks that short should post ok. I'll do 2 or 3 of them for you. Happens every time I take off no matter the load or speed.

[Zimmerdylan]

I'm going to have to download some Recording software for this. DCS is saving all of my tracks into my music notation (Finale) software format. What the????

I'll post stuff in a day or two.

[Zimmerdylan]

Here are 4 tracks. 3 from the F5 and 1 from the A10C that I had never blown a tire in before yesterday.

This only happens from cold start. Never from runway start.

A10blowout.trk

F5blowout II.trk

F5blowout III.trk

F5blowout.trk

[Angus]

To avoid this problem I pull the stick from 130 kts no matter the load or plane .

It is true that since the last update, the tires seem more sensitive.

[Zimmerdylan]

To avoid this problem I pull the stick from 130 kts no matter the load or plane .

It is true that since the last update, the tires seem more sensitive.

 

For me....It doesn't matter what I do. I pull the stick and the plane has no lift whatsoever, until the tire actually blows and then it takes right off. It's like the plane won't get off the ground until the tire is actually blown.

Very strange. It's one of those bugs that effects some but not others. :dunno:

[Sydy]

Gents,

 

My two cents: remember to retract spoiler completely via throttle knob and set trim to 7 (1 tank and missiles), 8 or 9 (really hvy).

 

Good luck,

 

Sydy

Edited December 3, 2016 by Sydy

[BIGNEWY]

It seems to me after looking at a lot of tracks if a user is outside a normal take off in anyway you will get punished for it.

 

Most of the tracks I have seen so far the speed at rotation made a huge difference, push it to far for a specific aircraft and a tyre will pop

[Reflected]

It seems to me after looking at a lot of tracks if a user is outside a normal take off in anyway you will get punished for it.

 

Most of the tracks I have seen so far the speed at rotation made a huge difference, push it to far for a specific aircraft and a tyre will pop

 

I beg to differ. Check my track. Happens before I reach 170 kts. Vmax for the tyres should be 230 kts according to the manual.

 

How can a tire blow BEFORE the plane goes fast enough even to rotate?!

[Pilsner]

Bump, I'm having the same problem, never blown a tire before in the other aircrafts, but in The F-5, Tires blow up as soon as i rotate on take off, even on a clean aircraft.

[Zimmerdylan]

It seems to me after looking at a lot of tracks if a user is outside a normal take off in anyway you will get punished for it.

 

Most of the tracks I have seen so far the speed at rotation made a huge difference, push it to far for a specific aircraft and a tyre will pop

 

 

 

I completely get what you are saying. But you aren't understanding that I am pulling back on my stick to get the AC off the ground as soon as possible to avoid the blowout. It just won't lift off until the tire blows. When the tire goes, it's like the plane loses a ton of weight and lifts off the ground. This surely must be a bug as I have never blown a tire on any AC before all of this.

 

 

In the 4 tracks I posted for you, there is nothing unusual about the takeoffs. At least 2 of them have the plane going right down the center of the runway with no deviation. So what do you mean by "outside of normal"?

Edited December 4, 2016 by Zimmerdylan

[BIGNEWY]

No worries, when I get some spare time I will take another look at them

[BIGNEWY]

Some of the tracks do not play back correctly, not to worry.

 

I notice you do not trim at all for take off, try with some trim and let me know if it helps.

 

I will try and find out if something has changed somewhere to be creating this problem.

 

For me personally I am not seeing an issue at take off

[klem]

I completely get what you are saying. But you aren't understanding that I am pulling back on my stick to get the AC off the ground as soon as possible to avoid the blowout. It just won't lift off until the tire blows. When the tire goes, it's like the plane loses a ton of weight and lifts off the ground. This surely must be a bug as I have never blown a tire on any AC before all of this.

 

 

In the 4 tracks I posted for you, there is nothing unusual about the takeoffs. At least 2 of them have the plane going right down the center of the runway with no deviation. So what do you mean by "outside of normal"?

 

As BIGNEWY says, check Trim as attached.

 

I also sometime get blowout but I am conscious I am too fast when still on runway.

[Reflected]

I always trim the plane properly, but I don't see how it should affect the Vmax of the tires. Last time I checked 160 is inferior to 230. Regardless the trim settings.

[klem]

I always trim the plane properly, but I don't see how it should affect the Vmax of the tires. Last time I checked 160 is inferior to 230. Regardless the trim settings.

 

Well in that case I can't explain it. I just took off empty with nose erected but with nil trim just to see. Hauled it off at 200 ok.

[The M]

I have the same Problem in multiplayer. The trim has no affect. The nose won't go up until the tire blows. After that everything works fine.

[BIGNEWY]

The ED team are aware some users are having issues and it is being looked into.

[Zimmerdylan]

I have the same Problem in multiplayer. The trim has no affect. The nose won't go up until the tire blows. After that everything works fine.

 

 

 

Jeeze!! Thank you........lol:cry:

[Erk104]

I found this interesting.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=177560&page=4

 

Precisely. I just read through the F5E NATOPS and the Vmax of the tires should be 230 knots.

 

I am not sure what NATOPS is but perhaps it can be investigated.