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Great to see that these old birds will be kept in service. Always better liked the legacy hornet over the superbug.

 

As for the accident rate, I don't think this something that will plaque these new refurbished F-18's.

 

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2016-06-10/boeing-restores-30-f/18c-models-marine-corps


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CF-18's will be in service until 2025.

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Great to see that these old birds will be kept in service. Always better liked the legacy hornet over the superbug.

 

As for the accident rate, I don't think this something that will plaque these new refurbished F-18's.

 

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2016-06-10/boeing-restores-30-f/18c-models-marine-corps

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To be fair, there's probably F-4s in the boneyard in better shape than most of the current USMC Hornets.

 

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So what you're saying is that the Marines should buy Rhinos?

 

Trade the dilapidated for the inferior? No, there's a reason why USMC F-35 buys have been accelerated. Say what you will about the F-35, the one thing everyone agrees on is that it's perfect for the Marine Corps.

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Trade the dilapidated for the inferior? No, there's a reason why USMC F-35 buys have been accelerated. Say what you will about the F-35, the one thing everyone agrees on is that it's perfect for the Marine Corps.

 

That was a joke. ---> Which Rhinos am I referring to? :D

 

Okay maybe that looked better in my head, whatever... :P

 

Joking aside though, we're in agreement on the Lightning and all that.

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That was a joke. ---> Which Rhinos am I referring to? :D

 

Okay maybe that looked better in my head, whatever... :P

 

Joking aside though, we're in agreement on the Lightning and all that.

 

I wasn't sure, since I've run int a surprising amount of people who don't know Rhino was also the Phantom's nickname :megalol:

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Another Legacy Hornet Down in JPN. Pilot Status unknown.

 

Another USMC F/A-18,

Pilot Ejected,

Has not Been Recovered,

SAR Operations Underway


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https://theaviationist.com/2016/12/07/yet-another-u-s-fa-18-has-just-crashed-in-japan-its-the-9th-legacy-hornet-lost-in-6-months-and-the-crash-rate-is-alarming/

 

 

"Reports are emerging that a U.S. F/A-18 Hornet has crashed earlier today in Japan. Rescue efforts to recover the pilot would be underway.

 

Although no further details are available at this time, the fact that the aircraft was stationed at Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Japan, seems to suggest the jet involved in the crash was a U.S. Marine Corps F/A-18C/D model.

 

If confirmed this would be the 9th major incident involving a “Legacy Hornet” (including the Canadian CF-18 lost on Nov. 28, 2016) in the last 6 months.

 

Although each crash has its own root causes and may depend on several contributing factor (including the human error), we can’t but observe, once again, that the rate of crashes involving legacy Hornets is alarming.

 

Two U.S. Marine Corps F-18 Hornets from MCAS Miramar crashed on Nov. 9 near San Diego. Another one on Oct. 25. A Swiss Air Force Hornet was lost on Aug. 29, whereas a Navy F/A-18C crashed on Aug. 2. On Jul. 27 USMC F/A-18 crashed so as the Blue Angels Hornet that crashed on Jun. 2.

 

This is how we commented the Royal Canadian Air Force CF-18 crash:

 

“In the wake of the Hornet crashes from June through October, the U.S. Marine Corps temporarily grounded its non-deployed Hornets. Unfortunately, few days after the ban was lifted, two more F/A-18Cs were lost on Nov. 9.

 

Hornet crashes over the last year have depleted the number of available airplanes for training and operations. According to USNI News the service had 85 Hornets available for training, compared to a requirement for 171.

 

In order to face the critical shortage of operational fighters caused by both crashes and high operational tempos, the U.S: Marine Corps has launched a plan that will see Boeing upgrade 30 retired legacy Hornets (currently stored at the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group at Davis-Monthan AFB, Arizona) to a standard dubbed F/A-18C+.

 

With this upgrade, that will also embed new avionics, the service will be able to keep up with its operational tasks until the F-35 is able to take over.

 

Once upgraded to the C+ standard, these “gap fillers” should be more than enough to conduct combat operations in low-lethality scenarios like those that see the USMC at work these days.

 

Furthermore, once these “refreshed” Hornets are delivered to the squadrons, older airframes can be retired, improving flight safety.”

 

Once again: aircraft may crash for a variety of reasons, not always technical. Still, the rate of Legacy Hornet crashes in the last months seems to be unusual and, as such, concerning."

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11th Legacy Hornet Since June (all Branches) and I think 9th for the USMC.

 

80 of the Required 171 F/A-18s are Flight Worthy.

 

Less than 50% Airworthy Readiness.

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Trade the dilapidated for the inferior? No, there's a reason why USMC F-35 buys have been accelerated. Say what you will about the F-35, the one thing everyone agrees on is that it's perfect for the Marine Corps.

 

Its perfect for the Marines...but too expensive to justify for a single service purchase.

 

There is something very important to remember about the A-10, F-15, F-16 and F-18. These are the last of the aircraft built for a "single mission". All were originally optimized for a task that they did well. it wasn't after they were in production that the propeller heads started asking if the aircraft was capable of more. In every case it was capable of more because the initial design was sound.

 

Aircraft being designed and manufactured today are built to compromises not specifications.

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USMC Pilot Killed in F/A-18 Crash in Japan Identified

DECEMBER 8, 2016usmc-pilot-jake-frederick

FIGHTERSWEEP STAFF NO COMMENTS MARINE CORPS, MILITARY AVIATION, NEWS

Marine Corps F/A-18 pilot Captain Jake Frederick was killed Wednesday when his aircraft crashed into the ocean off the coast of Japan.

 

The 32 year Hornet old pilot was on a training mission and ejected from the aircraft. Another F/A-18 that was on the mission with Captain Frederick remained on scene circling the location of the crash until he ran low on fuel.

 

The Japanese Ministry of Defense reported Thursday that a Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force ship had recovered Frederick.

 

Frederick was a graduate of Ray High School in Corpus Christi, Texas, and attended the University of Texas at Austin, where he met the love of his life, Kiley, his mother, Donna Frederick, said Thursday. The couple have a young son and a baby on the way, she said. Donna Frederick said the Marines had been to her home to notify her.

 

Jake was “a beloved son,” Donna Frederick said. He loved water skiing, snow skiing and tennis. “Flying was his dream,” she said. “He got to do that.”Serving in the Marine Corps runs deep in the family, she said.

 

Jake Frederick’s brother, Joe Bob Frederick, is also a Marine and a C-130 Hercules pilot. He is a flight instructor in Corpus Christi. Donna Frederick’s father was also a Marine. – Stars & Stripes"

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It Seems Oceana is now participating in Efforts to Restore Mothballed F/A-18s to C+ Standards.

 

Several Airframes arrived by flat bed this week.

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