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I think what you are asking for is not realistic. That is not how aircraft radios work. Perhaps this video might help.

 


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Hmm it should save but it's based on vendor id rather than instance id which is I think the issue.

 

Could you post a screenshot of your dropdown showing all the devices in SRS and your logs?

 

 

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The one it refuses to remember is the realtek high definition microphone.

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Feature request

 

Would be nice if I didn't have to exit SRS and restart it if I've forgotten to plug in my headphones and mic before starting the program. Perhaps add option to refresh the device list and automatically select "favorite" devices if they are available?

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I need help from one of the smart software guys.

 

My background is electrical so I will struggle with this part a bit.

 

For the A-10C, AN/ARC-186(V) volume knob is device 133, AN/ARC-164 UHF volume knob is device 171, and AN/ARC-186(V)FM volume knob is device 147.

 

How did you find out the device IDs for the A-10C cockpit panels?

What would be the AN/AIC-18 VHF_AM volume knob device ID?

What would be the AN/AIC-18 UHF volume knob device ID?

What would be the AN/AIC-18 VHF_FM volume knob device ID?

What would be the AN/AIC-18 Master volume knob device ID?

 

To know if the channel is enabled or disabled by the AN/AIC-18, each volume knob has a built in push pull switch.

 

What would be the SR.getButtonPosition(???) number for each of the three knobs. Meaning AN/AIC-18 VHF_AM (In/Out), AN/AIC-18 UHF (In/Out), and AN/AIC-18 VHF_FM (In/Out)?

 

Lastly, for example VHF_AM, we need to modify the volume line to say:

 

_data.radios[2].volume = SR.getRadioVolume(device_ID_1) x SR.getRadioVolume(device_ID_2) x SR.getRadioVolume(device_ID_3) x SR.getButtonPosition(device_ID_4)

 

But of course write it the correct way to multiply four functions together. Not sure if the argument structure would be f(AxBxCxD) or f(A)xf(B)xf©xf(D) or whatever.

 

:-(

 

Three of the functions have a continuous range from 0.0 to 1.0 but I figure it still should multiply with a discrete value that will be either a 1 or 0 to achieve the ON/OFF effect.

 

Thanks,


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Clickabledata.lua in:

Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\A-10C\Cockpit\Scripts

 

Intercom Panel (Inercom Panel) lines 1085-1096

 

I´ll try it. I forgot that panel and the dependecies....

 

Thanks!

 

@Ciribob.

I´ve got the same problem with the "not saving values" as Fixen says. Maybe some windows update after Creators update or Realtek update?

I will investigate it next week.

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Ciribob, have you seriously considered working with ED to make your program part of DCS?

Or at least come with the download?

ED have so many things on their plate right now that it would be years until we got a built-in version.

 

And even once they got around to it, it would be a real shame for them to re-do the stuff that you have already made so much progress on...

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I was wondering what were the future plans for upgrading DCS Simple Radio.

 

DCS SR has done amazing simulation for the KY-58 Secure Voice which would not be working at all if it weren't for DCS SR. That panel is listed as non-functional in the original DCS World simulation. Also DCS Simple Radio brings out the features of the AN/AIC-18 Intercom panel, AN/AR-186 VHF, and AN/AR-164 UHF radios. I wish DCS World gave you the option to have cockpit audio (Tacan, ILS, Marker Beacon, etc) route through your headset like DCS SR does. And at the same time have your environmental sounds like engine noise, gun firing, wind, etc, go to the desktop speakers.

 

However, I was hoping for the following upgrades for DCS Simple Radio.

 

1. DCS Radio to become the tool for not only Radio Simulation but for IFF transponder as well. In a future version, a fighter pilot could use their main radar to designate a target (like a trigger similar to PTT). If the target is in radio range, and if the target such as an A-10 has an IFF, then the IFF settings are sent to the corresponding fighter who designated the target. I'm not expecting DCS SR to insert graphics on the Radar Display or anything like that, just give an audio, or tone, or maybe text message of the results of the interrogation. And on the A-10 cockpit (the target), light the reply light on the IFF to show that it replied to an interrogation. Now for the interrogation to work, the fighter needs to have his IFF on and modes set, the target side needs to have his IFF on and modes set. It seems like Simple Radio is already doing much of that logic when it comes to radios. I know this maybe a lot of work to add this feature but it sure would be nice in my humble opinion. What would really be sweet to is, if that the trigger can be just a search radar lock instead of the full blown missile type radar lock. That may cut down on the missile lock warnings due to buddy spikes. So imagine a scenario where a fighter pilot reads the target's IFF settings, the first two digits may signify the mission type : Escort#1, CAP#1, CAS#3, SEAD#2, etc. The last four digits may identify the aircraft number. For example, Wingman 1, 2, 3, or 4 of that corresponding group. Something of that nature where the information of the IFF settings are given to the interrogator. Another example could be that the interrogator can see if you have your IFF set to emergency. Also the results could be no response due to it being an enemy or even friendly with his IFF off. These scenarios could help out the com's by having a player get information without having to use voice communication.

2. A-10C has an antenna panel where the pilot can select top or bottom antenna to transmit on for UHF and also for IFF. Would be cool if selecting the antenna that is pointed at the target would maybe give a slightly better range. Then that would be one more panel that would become meaningful, or functional.

 

Thanks,

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Hey guys, whenever I double click SR in USERNAME/SAVEGAME No overlay will open up.

 

This is for both client and server.

 

It is visible for a short while in taskmngr and then disappears.

 

 

I´ve got the same problem if MSI Afterburner is running. Close Afterburner and works. Same with FTX Central for FSX, not running if Afterburner is running.

Maybe something related to MSI Afterburner and the OS (W10PRO Creators Update in my end).

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Alright I searched both google and this forum for an answer and none came up so here goes:

 

Is there a way to hear myself talk when pressing the PPT button? Not because I'm in love with my own voice, but because it's extremely hard for me to talk while at the same time not hearing my own voice. I'm wearing headphones, and even with the cockpit sounds down it's still hard to hear my own voice.

 

(This is why deaf people sound weird when they talk. If you get no feedback from your own voice, your brain is unable to correct your vocal muscles, so you end up having to create a sound based on feel, instead of, you know: sound.)

 

Real pilots get real-time feedback from their own voice when talking in the noise environment of the cockpit. So must we!

Again, I apologize if the question has already been covered a thousand times. I just can't find the answer.

P.S.: leaving the "preview audio" option on is not a solution.


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Is there a way to hear myself talk when pressing the PPT button?
No,

 

you can enable in Windows that you hear, all sounds coming in your mic. But not (only) when you hold PTT. It's either all or nothing :D

 

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Alright I searched both google and this forum for an answer and none came up so here goes:

 

Is there a way to hear myself talk when pressing the PPT button? Not because I'm in love with my own voice, but because it's extremely hard for me to talk while at the same time not hearing my own voice. I'm wearing headphones, and even with the cockpit sounds down it's still hard to hear my own voice.

 

(This is why deaf people sound weird when they talk. If you get no feedback from your own voice, your brain is unable to correct your vocal muscles, so you end up having to create a sound based on feel, instead of, you know: sound.)

 

Real pilots get real-time feedback from their own voice when talking in the noise environment of the cockpit. So must we!

Again, I apologize if the question has already been covered a thousand times. I just can't find the answer.

P.S.: leaving the "preview audio" option on is not a solution.

 

Are you using "noise cancelling" headphones?

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Sorry to post yet another problem report, but I like SRS too much to not bring it up. ;)

 

IMO the noise degradation on the A-10C UHF radio is too severe.

 

In our squadron, we fly out of Nellis. It seems that somewhere between 20 NM and 30 NM distance, the volume of the UHF radio drops to something like 10% or maybe 20% even though sender and recipient have a clear LOS. Basically, I can hear someone say something, I can recognize their voice, but it's near impossible to understand what they say (and the same the other way around - they hear me, but can't understand me).

 

I'm by no means an expert on RL radios, but to the best of my knowledge the UHF radio should have an effective range well beyond 30 NM.

 

It seems that both A-10C VHF radios have a much longer effective range.

 

A squad mate offered to provide formulas for proper degradation effects, if it's any help. I'd be happy with an approximation. It's just that the drop between something like 19 NM (crystal clear) and 30 NM (almost inaudible) seems really exaggerated, so here's to hoping there's an easy fix. :thumbup:

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Having some issues here with SRS: The Microphone and Speakers devices are reset on each restart. (1.3.3.0) Additionally the Speaker device names are grabbed using the wrong strings in Windows 10:

 

Due to some audio duplication and rerouting i'm now using virtual cable as mic input for SRS and the same thing happens, it works fine but the selection isn't saved/loaded. Should be replicable.

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1. disconnect from any Server

2. select first output device (Speakers)

3. do preview audio - can you hear your voice? if not:

4. exit audio preview mode

5. select next output device

6. goto pos 3. and try further

 

 

This worked for me since I have the bug mentioned in post #1570.

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Would be nice if I didn't have to exit SRS and restart it if I've forgotten to plug in my headphones and mic before starting the program. Perhaps add option to refresh the device list and automatically select "favorite" devices if they are available?

 

I'll add to the list :)

 

Ciribob, have you seriously considered working with ED to make your program part of DCS?

Or at least come with the download?

ED have so many things on their plate right now that it would be years until we got a built-in version.

 

And even once they got around to it, it would be a real shame for them to re-do the stuff that you have already made so much progress on...

 

Maybe one day :)

 

Needs a lot more work!

 

Thanks Tarres, your guidance was spot on.

 

I added the changes and it works like a champ.

 

 

Thanks to you both for this, i'll add to a release soon :)

 

Hey guys, whenever I double click SR in USERNAME/SAVEGAME No overlay will open up.

 

This is for both client and server.

 

It is visible for a short while in taskmngr and then disappears.

 

As Tarres says, make sure MSI afterburner isn't running. It conflicts will all .net programs unfortunately (it tries to inject an FPS counter for some reason... )

 

If you need more help, ask here: https://discord.gg/Hb7rYey

 

I was wondering what were the future plans for upgrading DCS Simple Radio.

 

DCS SR has done amazing simulation for the KY-58 Secure Voice which would not be working at all if it weren't for DCS SR. That panel is listed as non-functional in the original DCS World simulation. Also DCS Simple Radio brings out the features of the AN/AIC-18 Intercom panel, AN/AR-186 VHF, and AN/AR-164 UHF radios. I wish DCS World gave you the option to have cockpit audio (Tacan, ILS, Marker Beacon, etc) route through your headset like DCS SR does. And at the same time have your environmental sounds like engine noise, gun firing, wind, etc, go to the desktop speakers.

 

However, I was hoping for the following upgrades for DCS Simple Radio.

,

 

The roadmap is mainly to rewrite the entire radio in C++ for all the core high performance parts.

 

Once thats done (which will be months), i'd like to work on the IFF system as you suggest :)

 

Alright I searched both google and this forum for an answer and none came up so here goes:

 

Is there a way to hear myself talk when pressing the PPT button? Not because I'm in love with my own voice, but because it's extremely hard for me to talk while at the same time not hearing my own voice. I'm wearing headphones, and even with the cockpit sounds down it's still hard to hear my own voice.

 

(This is why deaf people sound weird when they talk. If you get no feedback from your own voice, your brain is unable to correct your vocal muscles, so you end up having to create a sound based on feel, instead of, you know: sound.)

 

Real pilots get real-time feedback from their own voice when talking in the noise environment of the cockpit. So must we!

Again, I apologize if the question has already been covered a thousand times. I just can't find the answer.

P.S.: leaving the "preview audio" option on is not a solution.

 

This is currently not possible, as personally i'd find it really odd! but each to their own :)

 

I'll add to the list

 

Having some issues here with SRS: The Microphone and Speakers devices are reset on each restart. (1.3.3.0) Additionally the Speaker device names are grabbed using the wrong strings in Windows 10:

 

https://gyazo.com/afd18bd2f93fa4df3f5f8561d94a7e02

 

https://gyazo.com/d446a78c2fc00c696fd8ccc618a89cad

 

Thanks for that - thats interesting to see. The strings I use are the only ones I get from the API (WSAPI) but i'll double check.

 

Sorry to post yet another problem report, but I like SRS too much to not bring it up. ;)

 

IMO the noise degradation on the A-10C UHF radio is too severe.

 

In our squadron, we fly out of Nellis. It seems that somewhere between 20 NM and 30 NM distance, the volume of the UHF radio drops to something like 10% or maybe 20% even though sender and recipient have a clear LOS. Basically, I can hear someone say something, I can recognize their voice, but it's near impossible to understand what they say (and the same the other way around - they hear me, but can't understand me).

 

I'm by no means an expert on RL radios, but to the best of my knowledge the UHF radio should have an effective range well beyond 30 NM.

 

It seems that both A-10C VHF radios have a much longer effective range.

 

A squad mate offered to provide formulas for proper degradation effects, if it's any help. I'd be happy with an approximation. It's just that the drop between something like 19 NM (crystal clear) and 30 NM (almost inaudible) seems really exaggerated, so here's to hoping there's an easy fix. :thumbup:

 

The distance is based on Line of sight, radio power and frequency using Friis equation. If you search this thread you can see a breakdown of the calculation used. What you're saying doesn't sound right though so i'll check the degradation factor :)

 

I have 1.3.3.0 installed and for some reason i cant hear any sound from SR. I cant see any input in the windows soundmixer. Any known issue?

 

As birkenmoped says, try all the output devices with Preview Audio to find the one you're actually using :)

 

 

Sorry for the slow reply to all - Been busy with BlueFlag work and other scripts

 

I will do a release soon that'll add more logging for which device is saved and why it picked a certain input and output device. Once thats released - if you're having trouble please post logs and then I can hopefully diagnose as I can't replicate on my system.

 

The release will also have the work done by GSS Rain (thanks! :) ) which makes the audio panel on the A10C functional.

 

I'll also add an option to automatically select the first channel if presets are loaded

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CSAR Script - Downed Pilot Rescue / Dedicated Server Script - Automatically launch DCS Multiplayer server at startup

Range Scoring Script - Get scores and counts hits on targets for gunnery or bombs / SimpleSlotBlock - Multiplayer dynamic Slot Blocking Script

 

Projects: DCS-SimpleRadio Standalone - DCS Radio Integration for All Aircraft - NO TeamSpeak Required! :)

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Hi, I just trying to set DCS and all this up for the first online trials.

Having installed SimpleRadio now for the first time, I can't get ingame audio to run simultaneously - whenever SR is connected to a server, ingame audio is dead.

Tried forum search without result, thx in advance for any advice!

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Hi, I just trying to set DCS and all this up for the first online trials.

Having installed SimpleRadio now for the first time, I can't get ingame audio to run simultaneously - whenever SR is connected to a server, ingame audio is dead.

Tried forum search without result, thx in advance for any advice!

 

What soundcard do you have?

 

SRS uses the same audio APIs as TeamSpeak, do you have the same issue with that?

 

Either way it sounds like DCS is somehow set to take "exclusive access" of your sound.

 

https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/211166003-How-to-Disable-Exclusive-Mode-in-Windows-Sound-Preferences

 

^ will show you how to stop that so they all work together :)

Scripts: Complete Transport And Logistics Deployment - CTLD / CTLD Examples - Lots of example of how to use CTLD

CSAR Script - Downed Pilot Rescue / Dedicated Server Script - Automatically launch DCS Multiplayer server at startup

Range Scoring Script - Get scores and counts hits on targets for gunnery or bombs / SimpleSlotBlock - Multiplayer dynamic Slot Blocking Script

 

Projects: DCS-SimpleRadio Standalone - DCS Radio Integration for All Aircraft - NO TeamSpeak Required! :)

DCS-SimpleRadio Troubleshooting Post / DCS-SimpleRadio Free Support Channel on Discord

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