Shaman Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 There is this thing that is bugging me for many years. Each time I spawn in the pit... camera slowly zooms for few moments then stops, instead of just locking at my setting of FOV 90 for example. After resetting the view FOV to default (keypad5, then keypad+) or moving zoom axis slider to middle, I am back where I want to be and it doesn't bug me throughout the flight ever again. I am using TrackIR. This happens with every aircraft. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 That's normal Try not to move your slider and wait until it toomed out and then press the numpad enter for reset FOV What you also could to is ehrn it's zooming out press * or / to stop the zooming and then reset your FOV again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 I know this bugger is considered now "normal". And I have been resetting view for years after waiting a while. I am really tired of this already. Some of us build cockpits around fixed FOVs. This is a true bugger. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Honestly, I also quite hate this "effect". It is barely tolerable in cold starts etc, but is even more annoying when I am airstarting for practicing something. I wish there was an option to disable this altogether. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Given how long nearly everyone has been complaining about it, I would imagine that this is never going to change. EDIT: I would even settle for an explanation, from the devs, why it is done this way. That also does not appear to be forthcoming, either. Edited June 13, 2016 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I think this "feature" has discussed thousand times, and everytime some explains what it is for, but still can't remember the reason. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I think this "feature" has discussed thousand times, and everytime some explains what it is for, but still can't remember the reason. I have heard various possible explanations from Mods and Testers, but never from someone that was actually involved in the production of the sim. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmek Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Considering this "feature" from other perspective - if it's "norman" what was the rationale behind implementing it? Maybe there were some technical issues but from a user standpoint it has no added value - just bugging me with a need to reset to defautl view every time I enter the pit. I would love to see this effect to go away as there is no reason for it nor it has any added value. The pit should just be set to the default FOV and position at start. Simple as that :doh: F/A-18, F-16, F-14, M-2000C, A-10C, AV-8B, AJS-37 Viggen, F-5E-3, F-86F, MiG-21bis, MiG-15bis, L-39 Albatros, C-101 Aviojet, P-51D, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, Bf 109 4-K, UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf... and not enough time to fully enjoy it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Agreed. It is totally redundant, and should have been ditched years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just gonna wade in here also, Mr FOVchanger, your days are numbered, we don't like you, we never did, we demand you leave our immersion in peace and stop your FOVing around now! 1 ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necroscope Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) As far as I remember this was made for ppl with multy-monitor or projector setups. When ppl start complaining - it was decided that this "bug" is too minor and you can just wait and use FOV reset button. I.e. not-a-bug. I.e. "will be fixed sometimes". I.e. - two weeks. Edited June 14, 2016 by Necroscope Всех убью, один останусь! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 Thanks for all the replies, I am happy it is just not me going "crazy" over it, enough is enough :helpsmilie: 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearfoot Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 This is easily the most annoying/irritating "feature" in an otherwise great, great, great simulation. Extremely frustrating, especially in air starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necroscope Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I might be wrong but you can limit your maximum FOV with your preferred number hence this "feature" will have no room to "zoom out". Всех убью, один останусь! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) I might be wrong but you can limit your maximum FOV with your preferred number hence this "feature" will have no room to "zoom out". Nope, it doesn't work like that. What we do is set min and max calculating what is the exact medium in between the extremes. Then you set that medium as default cockpit snap view. And we still want to increase FOV sometimes but only on demand. Example: Saved Games\DCS\Config\View\ SnapViews.lua [13] = {--default view viewAngle = 90.000000,--FOV hAngle = 0.000000, vAngle = 0.000000, x_trans = 0.000000, y_trans = 0.000000, z_trans = 0.000000, rollAngle = 0.000000, }, }, Server.lua local GlobalCameraViewAngleLimits = {30,150} -- {min horiz. FOV in °, max horiz. FOV in °} <- aka Zoom, 150-30=120, 120/2=60, 30+60=90 or 150-60=90 Edited June 15, 2016 by Shaman 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardly38 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Not know if this will help because of my set up. Have you tried the user snap views. RALT+Num0. Im running 4 monitors and no longer see that. The view I want is the same as I start and flying. At start I let the sim zoom back then use (Cockpit Camera Move Forward) RCtrl+RShift+Num* to move a little forward then use RAlt+Num0 3 times to save. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] =&arrFilter_pf[gameversion]=&arrFilter_pf[filelang]=&arrFilter_pf[aircraft]=&arrFilter_CREATED_USER_NAME=chardly38&set_filter=Filter&set_filter=Y"]MY SKINS And Helios i7 2600k 3.4 quad w/ Hyper N520 cpu fan_, Asus Sabertooth z77_, RX 580_, Corsair Vengeance 1800 8Gb ram_, 112 OCZ Vertex 3_, Corsair HX 1000, 3 screens res 5292x1050_,and 1 1680x1050 Helios Ir Tracker 5 with Pro Clip_,Hotas Warthog#12167 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Not know if this will help because of my set up. Have you tried the user snap views. RALT+Num0. Im running 4 monitors and no longer see that. The view I want is the same as I start and flying. At start I let the sim zoom back then use (Cockpit Camera Move Forward) RCtrl+RShift+Num* to move a little forward then use RAlt+Num0 3 times to save. This is not helping, and irrelevant to the bug man. Btw, I am using TRACK-IR. There is no need guys to post these "fixes", none of them resolve the bug, we all know what is going on for years now. Been customer of ED products since 1996 :) 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardly38 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 OK I also use IR just trying to help. I no longer see this any more. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] =&arrFilter_pf[gameversion]=&arrFilter_pf[filelang]=&arrFilter_pf[aircraft]=&arrFilter_CREATED_USER_NAME=chardly38&set_filter=Filter&set_filter=Y"]MY SKINS And Helios i7 2600k 3.4 quad w/ Hyper N520 cpu fan_, Asus Sabertooth z77_, RX 580_, Corsair Vengeance 1800 8Gb ram_, 112 OCZ Vertex 3_, Corsair HX 1000, 3 screens res 5292x1050_,and 1 1680x1050 Helios Ir Tracker 5 with Pro Clip_,Hotas Warthog#12167 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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