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Two years later and this still has not been fixed even after being reported? And 4 years after the initial report. Just think about it, one of the most combat relevant flight features of this aircraft is still wildly off nearly half a decade later. This is extremely frustrating. Its almost as if they entire reason people pay out the wazoo for the advanced flight models is for things like this to be correct.


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@NineLine: I have recently revived the Sabre and the module is generally very good. But when I fight againsta Mig-15 I need the aileron control to work near Mach 1. Right now this is no fun at all. Please plead with the team to get this issue addressed!

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As far as i'm aware that was one major advantage the F86 had over the mig was with its all moving tail and hydro-boosted controls it didn't lock up at all where the mig had major lockup issues at M~M.75-.82'ish.  But currently not only will your controls lock but they lock in the position they were at when locked.  Which is kind of a big issue.

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I have bought this module and spent a lot of time on it.
This problem has always been there.

I have over 10 modules and from now on I intend on not buying any since this problem has never been addressed. It's quite obvious that most of my modules will suffer the same fate.

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On 3/15/2021 at 1:00 PM, NorthAmericanAviator said:

You guys at ED still don't care about this issue? I understand that you have other stuff to work on and such, but wouldn't it be better to just get this bug out of the way? Fix it and move on.

 

If this gets fixed, more MiGs will be splashed. For some that's a problem, for others, not. 😉 ED please remember, the MiG-21 was (is) pretty awesome. Don't sweat the small stuff and just fix the Sabre.

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2 hours ago, TLTeo said:

@BIGNEWY @NineLine please report this bug again or something, it really is getting silly 😞

 

it is reported, I will ask the team

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On 4/16/2021 at 3:57 AM, Squiffy said:

If this gets fixed, more MiGs will be splashed. For some that's a problem, for others, not. 😉 ED please remember, the MiG-21 was (is) pretty awesome. Don't sweat the small stuff and just fix the Sabre.

Not really. It´s more sluggish at those speeds meaning no roll rate. Just no ridikonculous lock up.. And if you are trying to fight a sabre using roll, you are making a mistake...

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Sabre is one of the last planes I don't yet own and I'm holding off from buying it until this bug is squashed. It's one of the primary historical characteristics of the Sabre.

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Now that looks interesting!! Waiting for the update to go live...

 

DCS 2.7.0.5118 Open Beta

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/openbeta/2.7.0.5118/

 

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DCS: F-86F Sabre by Belsimtek

  • Aileron Control at Mach .9+ Needs looked at - Fixed

 

 

I hope they didn't just only look at it 😅 but actually fix it

 

 

.50cals are next ED

 

 

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19 hours ago, kengou said:

Sabre is one of the last planes I don't yet own and I'm holding off from buying it until this bug is squashed. It's one of the primary historical characteristics of the Sabre.

 

Ha! Apparently ED wants you to purchase the Sabre. Was just reading this thread yesterday, was cool to then see the fix listed in today's notes.

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5 minutes ago, Monkwolf said:

 

Ha! Apparently ED wants you to purchase the Sabre. Was just reading this thread yesterday, was cool to then see the fix listed in today's notes.

Just saw that! I may purchase it indeed. Will wait to hear positive feedback for this change.

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In todays patch on open beta 

 

DCS: F-86F Sabre by Belsimtek

Aileron Control at Mach .9+  fixed

 

In my tests there is no Aileron lock now, just stiffness. 

 

Enjoy 

 

 

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