Panos1221 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombeckett2285 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 Buccaneer by the BANA Project Yes, we're still here. The uncovering of some new, detailed and very interesting technical data has led to the decision to undertake a complete, wholesale rewrite of the flight model and systems - it's a big learning curve, any developer will tell you that! Enthusiasm however is definitely still driving things along - could still really do with a big chunk of help with regards to 3D modelling though! If anybody at all can assist with that, please drop me a PM. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk "The only replacement for a Buccaneer is a Buccaneer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarlerus Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 How did the rewrite go? And did you find a 3D modeler? Jarl at YouTube DCS Service Span and Wishlist Spreadsheet Forum post for discussion of above spreadsheet Retro Electro Playlist on Spotify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Stunning work!! Can't wait!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3ST3R Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 All's gone quiet! Hopefully busy working! LOL INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 No news is good news...... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Wow!! Just seeing this thread for the first time......the fable British carrier strike plane might make it's way into our hands. That. Would. Be. Rad. Nuff said....... ~S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 If only we had a British carrier to fly off.....:joystick: The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 If only we had a British carrier to fly off.....:joystick: Post 104....... ~S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Nice repaint. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Since DCS is making a completely new type of Carrier ops and ships. I wonder if the Bucc will be adapted to work with that [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Hope so or my work will be all for nothing... Shame I don't have the plans for the 60's version of Hermes. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Maybe they can be released in increment updates? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombeckett2285 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Well, I thought I'd give you guys a little update, just to let you know we are still here ;) As you all appreciate, this project consists of a very small team of guys who work in our spare time around jobs and families. Consequently, there can be long periods of seeming inactivity - however, things get done as and when they can. FLIGHT MODEL REDESIGN After the 'discovery' of some very interesting data, it was decided to completely re-write the flight model from scratch to produce a SFM that is faithful to the Buccaneer. This consisted of converting hand drawn graph plots into usable digital data, then using that to calculate the various parameters required by the DCS flight model. Frustratingly, all the data is in imperial units too which necessitated further work in converting into metric and double checking the output of the functions for consistency. This process is now almost complete, and preliminary testing is extremely promising indeed in terms of flight behaviours across the regime. We have not, at this time implemented any kind of 'fudge' to allow the Buccaneer to get off an Aircraft Carrier within the current confines of DCS World but it is something that can be integrated fairly easily. Testing will continue to assess fuel burn and aerodynamic behaviours at the corners of the flight regime, although the main focus will be on behaviour within the normal flight parameters. 3D MODEL The 3D model is being rebuilt from scratch too, and when we have something to show on this front be assured we'll let you know! SYSTEMS The system design document is completed in it's first draft and is being constantly re-assessed and tweaked where necessary. However, uniquely coded and modelled systems are still a fair way off at this moment in time. Currently, the FC3 Su-25A cockpit and systems are being used for testing purposes for a number of reasons - primarily, the 3D custom cockpit that was imported from another simulator had such a large number of animations issues it was impossible to fly the aircraft properly from within the cockpit. The time that would have to be spent on correcting these will, in our opinion be better sunk into producing a new, DCS native custom cockpit. The Su-25A feels the best fit as it is from an aircraft of similar vintage, with a similarly rudimentary targeting system and a similar avionics capability. There are a number of custom weapons modelled at the moment, but the 3D models are still under development and placeholder shapes are being used to test performance. So, we are still here - and still beavering away! As ever, if you can contribute in terms of modelling or coding, please do drop me a PM! Just as another teaser for you guys, here's an image from some flight testing I did over the weekend... Until next time, stay Faster, Lower, Longer ;) "The only replacement for a Buccaneer is a Buccaneer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostdog688 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Well, I thought I'd give you guys a little update, just to let you know we are still here ;) As you all appreciate, this project consists of a very small team of guys who work in our spare time around jobs and families. Consequently, there can be long periods of seeming inactivity - however, things get done as and when they can. FLIGHT MODEL REDESIGN After the 'discovery' of some very interesting data, it was decided to completely re-write the flight model from scratch to produce a SFM that is faithful to the Buccaneer. This consisted of converting hand drawn graph plots into usable digital data, then using that to calculate the various parameters required by the DCS flight model. Frustratingly, all the data is in imperial units too which necessitated further work in converting into metric and double checking the output of the functions for consistency. This process is now almost complete, and preliminary testing is extremely promising indeed in terms of flight behaviours across the regime. We have not, at this time implemented any kind of 'fudge' to allow the Buccaneer to get off an Aircraft Carrier within the current confines of DCS World but it is something that can be integrated fairly easily. Testing will continue to assess fuel burn and aerodynamic behaviours at the corners of the flight regime, although the main focus will be on behaviour within the normal flight parameters. 3D MODEL The 3D model is being rebuilt from scratch too, and when we have something to show on this front be assured we'll let you know! SYSTEMS The system design document is completed in it's first draft and is being constantly re-assessed and tweaked where necessary. However, uniquely coded and modelled systems are still a fair way off at this moment in time. Currently, the FC3 Su-25A cockpit and systems are being used for testing purposes for a number of reasons - primarily, the 3D custom cockpit that was imported from another simulator had such a large number of animations issues it was impossible to fly the aircraft properly from within the cockpit. The time that would have to be spent on correcting these will, in our opinion be better sunk into producing a new, DCS native custom cockpit. The Su-25A feels the best fit as it is from an aircraft of similar vintage, with a similarly rudimentary targeting system and a similar avionics capability. There are a number of custom weapons modelled at the moment, but the 3D models are still under development and placeholder shapes are being used to test performance. So, we are still here - and still beavering away! As ever, if you can contribute in terms of modelling or coding, please do drop me a PM! Just as another teaser for you guys, here's an image from some flight testing I did over the weekend... Until next time, stay Faster, Lower, Longer ;) The update is much appreciated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Looking great. :thumbup: Let me know IF you want Hermes in the 1960s config.... :music_whistling: The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Oatcake Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Looks great guys! TF on, 200ft, Hard Ride, 420kts...Nothing better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappavis Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 EINDELIK nuus :) ek wag in spanning hierop. Miskien moet julle by 24 Eskader SA Lugmag kontak kry. met vriendelijke groet, Михель "умный, спортсмен, комсомолетс" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] [TABLE]SPECS: i9-9900K 32gigs RAM, Geforce 2070RTX, Creative XFi Fata1ity, TIR5, Valve Index & HP Reverb, HOTAS Warthog, Logitech G933 Headset, 10Tb storage.[/TABLE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krasniye Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 You guys still working on this project? >>Find my liveries (new model MiG-29 Liveries!) and mods here<< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkiii Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Are you having aileron droop & rotating bomb door? Air start with Palouste? How about buddy air to air refuelling? That would be fun. Can't wait to give it a go (Ex 208 Sqn in the 80s at Lossiemouth - "208 Penetrate!"). No need for all that flaring nonsense on landing - just keep on the glideslope until the ground meets you. If you can damage this kite on landing, then you are doing something seriously wrong ;) PS - a good read on flying the thing ;-Trials and Errors: Experimental UK Test Flying in the 1970s By Mike Brooke Edited January 25, 2017 by mkiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Oatcake Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Through, Not over TF on, 200ft, Hard Ride, 420kts...Nothing better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8d0g Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Are you having aileron droop & rotating bomb door? Air start with Palouste? How about buddy air to air refuelling? That would be fun. Can't wait to give it a go (Ex 208 Sqn in the 80s at Lossiemouth - "208 Penetrate!"). No need for all that flaring nonsense on landing - just keep on the glideslope until the ground meets you. If you can damage this kite on landing, then you are doing something seriously wrong ;) PS - a good read on flying the thing ;-Trials and Errors: Experimental UK Test Flying in the 1970s By Mike Brooke If you're into such books, I recommend ""Flying the Buccaneer: Britain’s Cold War Warrior"" by Peter Caygill. Its quite dry reading, but at the time i was studying aviation so it was educational, lots of interesting designs and work-arounds that make it an interesting aircraft on the catapult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Some update about that project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkiii Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 cheers n8d0g. Had a look at a preview of it, and he doesn't skip on the technical detail at all does he ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kye Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 A low level tosser is being made! Excellent! My dad was an engineer on the Bucc for the Navy. He loved em. I've heard a few stories about them. One of them being of a Bucc sent out beyond radar range of the carrier (Eagle or Hermes) to test the defences and detection of the ship. Everyone was on look out with Binos and all sorts he told me. They spent ages looking for it and couldn't see or detect it. Until it went by under the level of the flight deck at just about transonic. Dad remembers with a fond smile seeing the back seat grinning and waving on the way past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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