50fps but huge lag spikes in MP 1.5.3

[MegOhm_SD]

MMh yeah 16Go of ram and a GPU that cost more than 300€, that's standard.

 

The fact is that the game ran VERY GOOD until 1.5.3, our PC aren't the problem, it's this update that ****ed up everything.

 

All people complaining about that understand the clearly, it's the fault of DCS, but in the other hand, ED Tester keep saying that the issue is caused by our PC, and it's 99% false (1% is the DOF effect :p ).

 

I'm bored to have to fight issues against issues, to have to fix a sim that is suppose to have reach a stable version ! In fact even the first release of 1.5 was a lot better for my framerate...

 

Ram is cheap today. Grab yourself another 8 GB. OR JUST TWO NEW 8gb sticks

[Tonike]

you answered your own question, but there are more.

 

Ram is cheap today. Grab yourself another 8 GB. OR JUST TWO NEW 8gb sticks

 

I can still run Xplane10 stutter free and with good fps on fairly high settings. DCS won't even on minimum settings.

 

And in my case, if DCS uses ~2-4GB RAM (minimum settings), and the whole system uses ~50% of available 8GB RAM. How would buying additional 8GB help?

 

In any case, I will wait for the next update, and hopefully whatever is bugging the game will be resolved.

Edited February 28, 2016 by Tonike

[BIGNEWY]

Ive said it before, my dcs is stutter and lag free, so it is difficult for me to reproduce what you are seeing.

 

ED are always looking at optimisation, so do not loose hope.

[MegOhm_SD]

Ive said it before, my dcs is stutter and lag free

 

Same here. See Post 18

[msalama]

The only possible thing that is different is your system & game settings

 

I've seen time and again how certain programs just don't run on some HW/OS combos very well regardless of how you configure the platform, because PC hardware just is so wildly divergent and heterogenous. That's too bad, but it is what it is; after all, no-one ever claimed PCs are in any way, shape or form high-end... :dunno:

[msalama]

If your system is not high end then you will just have to lower your settings for starters and accept you can't run high graphics.

This machine is an i7-2600k@4.6GHz / Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 / 16GB RAM / GTX980 4GB VRAM / Win 7 Home Premium 64bit / Corsair Force GT SSD running 20 processes & 25 services all told at idle. It ran v1.5.2. perfectly, and yet _no_ amount of lowering settings seems to rectify this demented lag spiking & stuttering I'm now seeing in v1.5.3.

 

So how about that then, my above-the-spec machine suddendly turned into excrement or what? OK, gotta shove _that_ in my pipe and smoke it...

 

And mind you, FperS is just fine persay, I'm getting constant 60FPS whenever the spiking isn't there, i.e. altogether too seldomly. So THAT's my complaint right there, not sheer f/s.

[BIGNEWY]

msalama, are you running a script folder in your saved games location at all?

 

if so clear it out and run without it, to see if any difference is noticed

 

edit: in fact try renaming your saved games dcs folder, keeping it as a backup, restart dcs allowing it to create a new one.

 

redo your settings in game and copy your input folder to the new location. just to see if something in your dcs settings is fubar

Edited February 28, 2016 by BIGNEWY

[msalama]

just to see if something in your dcs settings is fubar

 

Did that two days ago already as instructed by SithSpawn. No change.

[BIGNEWY]

ok thanks

[Tonike]

Strangely, I just might have solved my problem. Now I can play fairly stutter free. There's still microstutter sometimes when tgp aquires the target for example.

 

What did I do? I'm not sure actually.

 

I deleted my saved games\DCS folder (saved my input folder)

 

Tried the game - still stutters.

 

then copied Ragnaroks shadow file

try my file

 

extract and paste in "...\Config\Effects"

 

I slide the preload radius to the max. Then tried the game; hmm.. seems better.

 

Then copied the original shadow file and tried again. Strange.. it's still better. What?

 

I could then up my graphics settings higher.

 

Also, when the level is loaded and you're sitting in the cockpit, I zoom in and out in every direction with rage, so that all the swapping is done. I don't know if this makes any sense or if it's helpful but.. oh well. I wonder if it stutters tomorrow.

 

Here's my graphic settings now.. Haven't really tried higher.

[karkka]

An update, I re-installed dcs release on my SSD, and tried out with the same settings as with my HDD, and it seems like it works a lot better now. And I also tried to turn DoF to simple and it only drops around 15 fps when using F2. I hope the HDD was the problem. I have only test Instant action yet.

 

What does the settings in the red circle do to the game, and what are important

Edited February 28, 2016 by karkka

[BIGNEWY]

good to hear you have seen some improvement.

[Darkwolf]

Same here. Was great in 1.5.2 (well, performance wise :D ). Now I have huge stuttering, any menu such map, slot select or score menu is dragging the computer down to 0.5 FPS'lideshow.

 

Note that giving computer spec may allow the dev to check if it's related to some specific GPU/CPU.

 

AMD 4350 quad core

R9 270

8Gig ram.

[BIGNEWY]

have you tried a fresh saved games dcs folder darkwolf?

[karkka]

I played some more, and it seems that the problem has not gone away..... I turn off DoF, what does that really do, to me its only make the world blurry.

[BIGNEWY]

dof is the blur effect in f2 view, it will give a performance hit currently so best left off

[karkka]

dof is the blur effect in f2 view, it will give a performance hit currently so best left off

 

Dumb question maybe but why do I want it on if it makes things blurry?

 

I´m now playing Enemy within, and sometimes it runs really smooth, and sometimes I get stuttering and frame drop, and it´s not because of lots of action.

[BIGNEWY]

depth of field is mainly for taking screens shots, as far as I can tell, I have mine off always

[Kuky]

Hi Kuky here are my settings :smilewink:

 

Civilian Traffic... set this to low (more civilian traffic just uses more CPU. You really don't need it)

 

Visibility Distance... this is way too high (as I thought). Please lower this to HIGH, you could even use MEDIUM setting.

 

MSAA... change this to 4x.

 

Terrain Flat Shadows... you can set this to OFF (it doesn't have big impact on FPS, not on my PC anyway)

 

change these and see how you go...

[Dieter]

Civilian Traffic... set this to low (more civilian traffic just uses more CPU. You really don't need it)

 

Visibility Distance... this is way too high (as I thought). Please lower this to HIGH, you could even use MEDIUM setting.

 

MSAA... change this to 4x.

 

Terrain Flat Shadows... you can set this to OFF (it doesn't have big impact on FPS, not on my PC anyway)

 

change these and see how you go...

 

Thanks KUKY. I will give it a try. I only hope to set it back on max settings when this game will be improved.:(

[uboats]

also turn off mirror can help

 

 

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[speedbirdcathay250]

Well, not sure if this thread is anyway active. Over the past several weeks I have been getting my own issues of a bit of lag here and there on Multiplayer (mainly whenever somebody enters/leaves the server), but the main issues for me was the constant stutter only on multiplayer. It was very prominent while moving on the ground and while in the air making quick movements, i.e aileron roll etc. It was almost unplayable as it was all I was focused on.

Although single-player was buttery smooth no problems there.

 

My system is overlocked to 4.3ghz. You can see my system specs in my signature. The BCLK speed was running at the stock 100mhz. I have another saved overclock profile which is at around 4.1ghz, and realised that BCLK speed was at 103mhz. Turns out, if I had it at 100mhz on multiplayer the odd stutter would come into play. If i switched it over to 103mhz, it was as smooth as single-player, but of course taking into account that on multiplayer there's a lot going on, and player constantly entering and leaving the server.

Was quite an odd but interesting discovery. Today was the third day I was finally able to fly on multiplayer 1.5.3 without any issues anymore and enjoying DCS again.

 

Hope this might give others some insight.

 

Cheers