mvsgas Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Hope they simulate the coolant tank supply which allows you to hover without the pegasus borking up :) I though it just used water, is it actual coolant? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Yup. I'm really hoping they get the sound bang on. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmijnen Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I though it just used water, is it actual coolant? Probably water, water is technically coolant in this case though! I was unaware of whether it was water or another fluid so just went with the general term there. 1 Modules: too many System: I7-7700K, GTX 2080 Super, 64GB DDR4, 500GB SSD, 3TB HDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyre Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I though it just used water, is it actual coolant? It's demineralized water. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 ok thanks To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly-B Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Deionised water, I thought? Not too sure on the differences between demineralised and deionised water in this case (one has no minerals in it, one has no ions in it?... :smartass: But that means nothing to me!!) The whole use of coolant within a VTOL system is an interesting one, however. The Harrier had a 500L water tank, and that was what limited the hovering time. When operating with water injection the Pegasus is considered to be using "wet thrust" and gave about +1000lb thrust, along with turning the engine exhaust black and smokey like the MiG 29 in game ;P This is just what I've gleamed from wikipedia, etc. please correct me if i'm wrong) Also, I wonder what (if any) the limiting factor for hovering in the F 35B is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyre Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) Deionised water, I thought? A1-AV8BB-NFM-000 dated 15 Mar 2008 Page 2-14 2.3.7.7 Water Tank The water tank is located in the engine bay, just aft of the engine. It contains approximately 500pounds of distilled or demineralized water with flow duration of approximately 90 seconds. The tank is replenished by gravity filling via a filler cap on the top surface of the fuselage. A water quantity probe extends down into the tank. This signals a quantity gauge transmitter, operates an H2O (approximately 15 seconds of water remaining) caution light on the priority caution light panel and also ensures, by deenergizing a low level switch, that the system cannot produce delivery pressure if initially there is less than approximately 25 pounds of water in the tank. The H2O caution light also illuminates and the water pump shuts down during normal operation if the water pressure drops below acceptable limits or the quantity is less than approximately 25 pounds. Repeated use of water other than distilled or demineralized will cause engine performance to deteriorate. Edited November 27, 2016 by Vampyre Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gliptal Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 For all interested, here is an OmegaTau episode about the Harrier, with two former pilots talking at lenght about them: http://traffic.libsyn.com/omegataupodcast/omegatau-148-flyingTheHarrier.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmijnen Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 It's demineralized water. Thank you for clarifying that mate! Modules: too many System: I7-7700K, GTX 2080 Super, 64GB DDR4, 500GB SSD, 3TB HDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon9 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'm watching videos in youtube regarding the RAZBAM Harrier and my hype increases! Nice airplane to fly in DCS for sure! Somebody knows if this is the next project to be released byRAZBAM or the A7 has more prio? I have the M2000C and i really enjoy the RAZBAM way of working & quality level Thank you! Typhoon Escuadrón 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'm watching videos in youtube regarding the RAZBAM Harrier and my hype increases! Nice airplane to fly in DCS for sure! Somebody knows if this is the next project to be released byRAZBAM or the A7 has more prio? I have the M2000C and i really enjoy the RAZBAM way of working & quality level Thank you! Typhoon Escuadrón 69 It's not their next project, because afaik that is the AT-27 Tucano. But I think the Harrier will come after that. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESAc_matador Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 It's not their next project, because afaik that is the AT-27 Tucano. But I think the Harrier will come after that. If I remember well, the Tuacno is first. The Harrier is expected Mid 2017 and the Corsair is in Stand By till they get how to make the Ground Radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Prowler said harrier planned for 1st quarter 2017 a couple days ago (subject to change) Edited December 8, 2016 by Wizard_03 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESAc_matador Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Prowler said harrier planned for 1st quarter 2017 a couple days ago (subject to change) Yes, something like that... i added the "EDelian constant of two weeks" to calculate, ;). Although to be honest Razban is showing he usually keep the things tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hog_driver111th Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I'd get it now if it'd help to release an open-beta sooner... A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Yeah.Harrier...come to daddy!:D New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comie1 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Deionised water, I thought? Not too sure on the differences between demineralised and deionised water in this case (one has no minerals in it, one has no ions in it?... :smartass: But that means nothing to me!!) The whole use of coolant within a VTOL system is an interesting one, however. The Harrier had a 500L water tank, and that was what limited the hovering time. When operating with water injection the Pegasus is considered to be using "wet thrust" and gave about +1000lb thrust, along with turning the engine exhaust black and smokey like the MiG 29 in game ;P This is just what I've gleamed from wikipedia, etc. please correct me if i'm wrong) Also, I wonder what (if any) the limiting factor for hovering in the F 35B is? Is there an option to carry two water tanks on the wings instead of fuel? Cause im gonna be hovering all day http://giphy.com/gifs/XjZrD0wU10FX2/html5 Edited December 15, 2016 by comie1 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://www.twitch.tv/comie1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangi Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Is there an option to carry two watter tanks on the wings instead of fuel? Cause im gonna be hovering all day http://giphy.com/gifs/XjZrD0wU10FX2/html5 Lol PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly-B Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 On a similar subject, 4 of the pylons are wet plumbed, so you could at least have a load of fuel. If all the tanks were 330 Gallon ones, you could take an extra 9000lbs of fuel with you ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comie1 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 On a similar subject, 4 of the pylons are wet plumbed, so you could at least have a load of fuel. If all the tanks were 330 Gallon ones, you could take an extra 9000lbs of fuel with you ;P Dammit man I'm a Harrier pilot not a pilot... :pilotfly: I want to hover not fly This guy has the right idea Im goint to beat his record. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://www.twitch.tv/comie1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 comie1; Wouldn't the weight of external water tanks negate their benefit? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Sized Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Also, I'm pretty sure that she can hover without water if the gross weight is low enough. Or you can go to full wet thrust without actually having any water by overriding the temperature limiter (done in emergencies) DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comie1 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 comie1; Wouldn't the weight of external water tanks negate their benefit? Yes :dunno: :drink: No [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://www.twitch.tv/comie1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly-B Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Don't know if this was already posted? But it's no nonsense, and good footage From the 1990s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmlufc Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Also, I'm pretty sure that she can hover without water if the gross weight is low enough. Or you can go to full wet thrust without actually having any water by overriding the temperature limiter (done in emergencies) They can only really hover dry with the Mk107 engine, gave them that extra bit of thrust and essentially took away the need for the water tank. It stayed for ballast obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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