Flaming Cliffs 4

[FSKRipper]

Would be ok for me as these planes are belonging to the Korea/Vietnam area with the possibility to get an AFM in the future. But new toys like the F-22 or F-35 as one klick one kill machines with a very forgiving SFM would be a nogo for me, at least in multiplayer matches.

[greco.bernardi]

I think FC3 PFM planes its the entry level to new pilots. Its good for grow the comunity. No problem for me.

[Lt_Maverick]

Flaming Cliffs 4

 

ED and 3rd party developers do a great job, obviously. However, if people are so worried about the rate in which aircraft are released, perhaps we should be doing the legwork and helping out. Our community could petition other talented developers that currently create airframes for other platforms that are inferior to DCS.

 

In my humble opinion, we have a smaller fan base community than other gaming communities. However, I feel like we have a lot more professionals that engage in this community and to be blunt, we're more than likely a lot more intelligent than most other gaming communities. I'm very confident in stating that we could easily lobby other 3rd parties to get involved. If 30 people email one company, they can tell us "no" but it could potentially pursued them to jump on board.

 

 

 

"The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down."- General Chuck Yeager, USAF, describing his first confrontation with a Me262.

 

 

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Edited December 10, 2015 by Lt_Maverick

[Raven434th]

Having more FC3 level planes is a great idea...for those like me that fly multiple aircraft...having to remember all those controls is a pain,I don't have the problem switching from FC3 aircraft to FC3 aircraft as all my controls are practically the same.

 

example...f-15 su25,33,27,mig29,a10...no problem.Try to fly an a10c after not flying a month or 2, then the mig21,mi8,blackshark,huey...forget it. IMO all HIGH fidelity DCS modules should have FC3 counterparts to allow for the issue of having to remember all the different controls.Shouldn't be a problem to "tone" them down to FC3 levels.

Edited December 10, 2015 by Raven434th

[FSKRipper]

Having more FC3 level planes is a great idea...for those like me that fly multiple aircraft...having to remember all those controls is a pain,I don't have the problem switching from FC3 aircraft to FC3 aircraft as all my controls are practically the same.

 

example...f-15 su25,33,27,mig29,a10...no problem.Try to fly an a10c after not flying a month or 2, then the mig21,mi8,blackshark,huey...forget it. IMO all HIGH fidelity DCS modules should have FC3 counterparts to allow for the issue of having to remember all the different controls.Shouldn't be a problem to "tone" them down to FC3 levels.

 

Would be nice if you could be more specific. FC3 at it's release or FC3 in it's current form?

 

It will make a big difference if you take a SFM Su-27 to the party or the current PFM (for that reason I refused to touch the MiG-29 the last years).

[Why485]

Would be nice if you could be more specific. FC3 at it's release or FC3 in it's current form?

 

It will make a big difference if you take a SFM Su-27 to the party or the current PFM (for that reason I refused to touch the MiG-29 the last years).

 

I don't know about everybody else, but when I say FC3 jet I mean FC3 like the F-15C, Su-25T, and Su-27. A SFM is simply unacceptable on a newly released plane in my opinion, but I would be perfectly fine with a jet on the level of the current FC3 jets.

[rrohde]

A SFM is simply unacceptable on a newly released plane in my opinion, but I would be perfectly fine with a jet on the level of the current FC3 jets.

 

This! :thumbup:

 

I actually feel like "fremdschaemen" for those devs that only offered an SFM initially; for me, it's an instant reason to ground that A/C.

Edited December 11, 2015 by rrohde

[Raven434th]

Would be nice if you could be more specific. FC3 at it's release or FC3 in it's current form?

 

It will make a big difference if you take a SFM Su-27 to the party or the current PFM (for that reason I refused to touch the MiG-29 the last years).

 

My meaning is specific too controls not flight models.

[spacenavy90]

New FC-type aircraft, if produced, should be the same quality both graphically and aerodynamically as FC3 in its current form.

[lazduc]

Come on ED, after you get the released version of 2.0 out, please start developing FC type aircraft.....I for one will purchase everyone you or your partners produce.

[Sweep]

. A SFM is simply unacceptable on a newly released plane in my opinion

 

Why is that? SFMs really aren't THAT bad...they're just bad at edge of envelope stuff. I suppose they also don't get the aircraft's 'feel' right, sometimes they're a bit twitchy...but its acceptable, IMHO.

 

Note that I'm more of a guy for capability or representative capability (I.E. it doesn't work exactly like this, but hey, its close) than perfect flight/systems modeling...

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

An FC4 would be welcome, but squaring away 3 should be top priority.

 

What would there be to add in FC4, though? I'd go the route of A-10A/A-10C; the more advanced variant being the full module.

 

I'd effectively replace the MiG-29G with a EuroViper; an F-16AM Blk. 15 MLU. Other than that?

 

Can't use the F/A-18C as it's getting a full DCS module. Would have to be an A.

[Lt_Maverick]

Nobody likes my petition idea?

 

 

 

 

"The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down."- General Chuck Yeager, USAF, describing his first confrontation with a Me262.

 

 

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[spacenavy90]

Nobody likes my petition idea?

 

I don't know how ED would feel about that. But if you have any studios in mind lets hear them.

 

Also unrelated, but you know you can add a signature to your posts without having to manually add it every time, right?

[Lt_Maverick]

I don't know how ED would feel about that. But if you have any studios in mind lets hear them.

 

Also unrelated, but you know you can add a signature to your posts without having to manually add it every time, right?

 

 

I don't add it every time. It probably shows up different because it's through tap-a-talk.

 

 

 

 

"The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down."- General Chuck Yeager, USAF, describing his first confrontation with a Me262.

 

 

JayRac3r/Lt_Mav YouTube Channel

[j.sabo12]

My favourite aircraft, except the MiG-21 and L-39, are FC3 planes, so I would definitely love the idea.

 

But you have to take into account how long each part of the development process lasts. Even for a simplified aircraft with a non clickable cockpit, the user base wants a nice flight model, since flight dynamics are something that puts dcs apart from FSX, etc. And it is this flight model that seems to be taking a longer time. I remember reading somewhere that the flight model for the Bf-109 took about $100,000 to develop (correct me if I'm wrong).

[walker450]

I'm all for more simplified models. I have a busy life, career, family, etc. I simply don't have the time to learn the new modules. I would love to just hop in and have a basic arcade like dogfight from time to time.

[Northstar98]

IMO I'd rather ED fix all the current stuff - rather than implement simplified aircraft, that's what Strike Fighters 2 is for (aside from its oversimplified flight dynamics)

[rrohde]

Why is that? SFMs really aren't THAT bad...

 

They are bad when you're used to PFMs. Ground-handling and flight are like day and night in comparison. SFM = Styrofoam block physics.

[Northstar98]

SFM = Styrofoam block physics.

 

Very much agreed

[Mtnbiker1998]

I think aside from their general ease of use, the best thing FC3 style planes bring is their accessability to those of us without a quality HOTAS. Its for that reason I fly the A-10A over the C (Though I'm getting a warthog for christmas! :joystick: ). For this reason I am for more FC3 level planes, as long as they have better than a SFM!

[dartuil]

Im ok for FC4 with typhoon , rafale , super hornet , f-15e , some sukhoi's and migs.

At the condition to have a FM more advanced than simple SFM ,not PFM but an ADVANCED SFM.

[HerrFledermaus]

For the World War 2 lovers like me, a flying fortress or multi-person bomber would be so nice !! Imagine flying along with someone, sitting there in your gun-turret, being bored like hell until... Normandy! Luftwaffe! That would be so great !!