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Any chance to see the F-15E within the next 2-3 years in EA? This modul was announced to be the next after the AV-8B, for sure an F-15E was already announced to come to DCS many years ago.

 

Now its again on hold and on other modules, which were announced later (Mig-23, Lightning), the work continues.

 

The F-15E is the last great jet to complete the F-14 to F/A-18 pack of legendary modern 4th gen US fighters in DCS.

 

Where did you read it is again back on hold?

 

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I'd rather see  a pointless 1960's aircraft like the EE Lightning shelved, and the work redirected to the F15E, as it's pretty obvious the F15E is a much more sought after module over the Lightning, w

Yes, the F-15E is the only missing bird of the collection we still have. F-14A/B, F-15C/E, F-16C, F/A-18C   Could really not understand why they set the work on it on hold for something like

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Development is not on hold, small things are being done, but large work to move it forward has been delayed while current modules are put into their final stages.

 

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Development is not on hold, small things are being done, but large work to move it forward has been delayed while current modules are put into their final stages.

 

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Okay nice to hear, will you then inform us when the large work on the module starts up again :), so we know how the progress is flowing.

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Development is not on hold, small things are being done, but large work to move it forward has been delayed while current modules are put into their final stages.

 

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Yeah, again on hold, well, small things won't get it out the door. it's only 10 years delayed now. It's ok. Razbam being razbam.

 

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The question is which modules are the current that stopped the work on the F-15E. Is it only the AV-8B, or are the current modules the Mig-23 and the Lighting, too?

 

For the Harrier I think its ok to finish it first, cause its already done, but the Mig-23 and for sure the Lightning were anounced many years after the Mudhen!

 

So why prefer them over the Eagle, even so many guys waiting for years now for this one module. :mad:

 

If the current modules mean the Mig-23 and the Lightning too, we will never see the Strike Eagle for the next 4-5 years minimum.

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Said the same thing last April. Can’t really post the quote right now, but I said at the pace of things the E will be EA release in about 5-7 years. A certain inside RAZBAM person asked me how I came up with that. I then said, look at where it is now and how much more needs to be done. This module has been curbed so many times. Not completely at the fault of RAZBAM but just the bad luck of other changes and that happened like world 2.0 released, one developer picking up where another left off, etc.

 

 

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I suspect that what's holding up the Mudhen is systems development. Harrier doesn't require modelers by this point, and those are the ones working on the MiG-23 and the Lightning, while the avionics people are busy fixing the Harrier.

 

Systems coding will be the rate-limiting step here, I'm afraid. While the Lightning is a very simple fighter (albeit with a few not so simple solutions), the MiG-23 is a complex machine, and of course the F-15E is even worse. I strongly suspect the Mudhen will be a priority once the Harrier is squared away, but that would put the MiG-23 in a very distant future indeed.

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I'd rather see  a pointless 1960's aircraft like the EE Lightning shelved, and the work redirected to the F15E, as it's pretty obvious the F15E is a much more sought after module over the Lightning, which really didn't do anything other than fly fast..

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Yes, the F-15E is the only missing bird of the collection we still have. F-14A/B, F-15C/E, F-16C, F/A-18C

 

Could really not understand why they set the work on it on hold for something like the Lightning!?

 

As things look at the moment, we will even get the Apache before we will see an EA F-15E! Who had ever thought of this?


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Any news about the F-15E? Is it probable to see it in EA this year, or do we have to wait another 5 years or so? Even the Apache will come this year in EA, and the Strike Eagle is now announced since 2014!!!

 

If there is no interest in making it, just leave it, so someone else can do it! But it's announced since years, and everytime another new module (Mig 19, Mig 23 and now the Lightning) was started and the work on the Eagle was on hold again, instead of finishing this one.


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So now we have all the legendary US-stuff from the cold war times until the mid 2000s (F-14B, F-16C, F/A-18C, A-10C, AV-8B, AH-64D, OH-58D). Only things still missing is an AH-1F Tow Cobra and the F-15E Strike Eagle. I hope we will see the Strike Eagle within the next two years, but I have great doubts about this.

Even the AH-1 is more probable to become reality, before we would see an EA F-15E.


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32 minutes ago, Viper1970 said:

So now we have all the legendary US-stuff from the cold war times until the mid 2000s (F-14B, F-16C, F/A-18C, A-10C, AV-8B, AH-64D, OH-58D). Only things still missing is an AH-1F Tow Cobra and the F-15E Strike Eagle. I hope we will see the Strike Eagle within the next two years, but I have great doubts about this.

Even the AH-1 is more probable to become reality, before we would see an EA F-15E.

 

Uhm, the AH-64 and OH-58 are still missing too. The F-15E has already been in active development way before these two modules.

Besides that there are some other legendary US aircraft from that timeframe missing on your list (e.g. F-111, A-7, A-6, UH-60).


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Uhm, the AH-64 and OH-58 are still missing too. The F-15E has already been in active development way before these two modules.

Besides that there are some other legendary US aircraft from that timeframe missing on your list (e.g. F-111, A-7, A-6, UH-60).

 

OH-58D will coming that year by Polychop, AH-64 has talk on official new by ED will coming on en EA on Q3 2021. F-15E by now has not show into DCS by RAZBAM with a funtional cockpit and system, 2022 I think.

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25 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

OH-58D will coming that year by Polychop, AH-64 has talk on official new by ED will coming on en EA on Q3 2021. F-15E by now has not show into DCS by RAZBAM with a funtional cockpit and system, 2022 I think.

 

We all know that all this is subject to change :wink:

Fact is, all three have not arrived so far.


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42 minutes ago, Viper1970 said:

So now we have all the legendary US-stuff from the cold war times until the mid 2000s (F-14B, F-16C, F/A-18C, A-10C, AV-8B, AH-64D, OH-58D). Only things still missing is an AH-1F Tow Cobra and the F-15E Strike Eagle. I hope we will see the Strike Eagle within the next two years, but I have great doubts about this.

Even the AH-1 is more probable to become reality, before we would see an EA F-15E.

 

Well unfortunately, your list is very much post cold war, oldest I think being F-14B we have, and even that is about mid 90s. Originally Razbam was considering a late 80s-early 90s F-15E, but apparently now it is going to be another 2000s version, so be ready to enjoy  a bazillion MFD pages or two I guess.

 

So if you want a Cold War American air power, the only thing that is missing is... well... everything 😄 

Ok, to be fair, the naval side is getting populated with F-8J, A-7E, and A-6E in future, and we are getting 80s F-14A too (the current A is too similar to B I think, it even still has TGP, so probably a late bird?). We also have UH-1H. And we have the lovely free A-4E which recently even got an EFM, so it finally feels proper in all the ways! But the aircraft you listed are all very much post cold war, earliest being mid 90s.

 

As for the Cobra... I am torn between a mid or late 80s, or up to early 90s AH-1W and AH-1F from the same period. I would really hope that it will NOT be a 2000s or 2010s W, or Z. We will have Apache to sctach that itch, which is cool. AH-1W or AH-1F would be a very nice blue counterpart for upcoming Mi-24P, and a very different experience compared to 2000s AH-64D we are getting. W is twin engine, and a Marine attack helo that would look rather nice on Tarawa (even if it may not be period correct). It would have Hellfires too. F on the hand, is also quite iconic with its angular canopy, assuming same team develops as the Huey, it will have more in common perhaps. Lack of Hellfires would make it an interesting counter part to Hind: Cobra F would have sloooow and relatively short ranged TOWs, but much better sighting system and a swivel mount 20mm gun which follows helmet sight. Depending on the year, AH-1F can also have night capability. Really torn between W and F. I really want to say that I want both, but from developer's point of view, they are too similar in what they offer to consumer, but too different to easily do both.

 

Regarding F-15E, I wonder if it will have AGM-130, or will it be too late a version for that. Would be a new and interesting weapon in DCS. Fairly long ranged missile with man in the loop capability, but not to the extent of a lot more advanced such weapons we have in Hornet, Viper, and Jeff so it would still be somewhat more challenging to use.

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Yes, for the cold war you are right. I mean the late 80's to the mid 2000's.  There is a lot, that is still missing, but also a lot that is rumored to come in future, like the A-6 the A-7 and we will also get the F-8. Sadly no F-4 Phantom here.

 

For the Cobra I really wish it will be an AH-1F and a Central Europe theater would also be nice 😉😄. I prefer the F-version over the W Twin Cobra. I know only single engine and much less systems, but it was the only real attack helicopter for a long time here in Europe during the Cold War times. And I think it looks a lot cooler with the flat cabin 😁. The W-model haven't played any role here in Europe during this times, this was MARINES stuff. Best we get both versions, the F and the W 😉. Same goes for the Phantom, a B and a E model would be nice.


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12 hours ago, TLTeo said:

Interesting. How common is it for Mudhens to fly with C/A paintjobs?

Very uncommon, the reason being is that the aircraft shown is the new F-15EX which will be taking over the C/D role, so the aircraft shown (initially at least) isn't a Mudhen.

 

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