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On 2/1/2021 at 6:25 PM, streakeagle said:

I can't wait to try it out!

Tell me about it!😅

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New development update from Leathernecks Facebook page:

 

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Is 2000 lbs of bombs not enough to blast bridges? Here's an option to help deliver an extra 1000 lbs!
Designed by the British aerospace company, Brewster, the design was licensed to several companies in the U.S. and New Zealand during the F4U-1A's reign. We have decided to include the center pylon for use with the F4U-1D as well. Mounted between the sway bars is the Mk.51 Mod 7 bomb rack capable of withholding 1600 lbs.
The other pylon pictured is what the actual assembly looks like inside the fairings and caps. There are two, where one is mounted under each inner wing behind the oil cooler flap. Included in the assembly are two AN-2 arming solenoids, and the AN-B-10 shackle capable of caring 1600 lbs. Try not to get your fairings shot off!
 
Image 1: Brewster designed, U.S. built center mounted pylon, with the Mk.51 Mod 7 bomb rack.
 
Image 2: The standard F4U-1D pylon assembly with the AN-B-10 shackle and two AN-2 arming solenoids.
 
Image 3: The standard F4U-1D pylon assembly with the AN-B-10 shackle and two AN-2 arming solenoids. The dark hose s for the droppable fuel tanks.

 

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On 12/26/2020 at 3:31 PM, AG-51_Razor said:

As would I, along with a Corsair that never flew over Korea during that conflict but the Essex class carriers would be very difficult to distinguish between those that were fighting during WWII and those that were modified later and operated in Korea. The "long hull" CV's were not so easy to tell apart from the earlier short hulls and it wasn't until very late in the conflict that you saw one or two with their dual 5" mounts removed from the flight deck. Probably the biggest difference might be the various antennas above the island for updated radar, navigation and communication.

 

I would really like to see a Jeep carrier (CVE) modeled for the Corsair as well! 👍

So if it's the F4U-1D, I'll buy that.  I hope they would follow it up with an F4U-4 and -4B ( I think the 'B' swaps out the six 50-cal's for four 20mm's?).  The fuselage, wings and empennage should be pretty much the same.

 

Yes, a WWII Essex ship would work just fine as a Korea-era Essex.  I think only the Oriskany had the modified island, until about 1955 when more were so modified.  The others, were still 'stock'.  Differences would be minor...maybe only in some radar antennas, like you said.  "Long hull" vs "Short hull" Essex.  I think they all had the same length hull at the waterline.  The "long-bow" Essex ships were about 16 feet longer overall because they were built with a longer "clipper" bow that allowed carriage of a pair of quad 40mm gun mounts.  They also had two quad 40mm mounts on the fantail.  Whereas the "short-bow" units had only one quad 40mm mount on a bow shaped more like that of a cargo ship, and one quad 40mm mount on the fantail.  The long-bow units had a flight deck about 18 feet shorter than the short-bow units, to allow the 40mm guns greater field of fire upwards.  The initial Essex ships were the short-bow, and they only shipped 8 quad 40mm mounts, total.  Long-bow units had at least 10 to 18 quads.  Although, throughout '44 to '45, I believe additional sponsons were added to the sides of the short-bow units to add more quad 40mm's.  I think F4U-1D Corsairs really only operated off Essex-class carriers in late '44 to the end of the war in Aug '45.  I think by the time the Korean war started in '50, the Navy had F4U-4's on Essex ships and on CVL's and CVE's.  However, we can operate them whenever we want.  Sometime in the 50's, I think the 40mm mounts were replaced with twin 3in/50's, and probably most or all of the 20mm guns removed.

 

But, of course, the main thing is having an authentic Essex-class carrier to operate from in DCS.  Although...if I'm not mistaken...we will ONLY have F4U-1D's on that carrier until someone makes us some Hellcats, Helldivers and Avengers to go along with.  In WWII, the CVE's (not fleet carriers or fast carriers -- only 23 knots, I think) operated the FM-2 Wildcat with the R-1820 engine and the Avenger.  18 Wildcats and 9 Avengers, typically.  Another thing.  I believe the catapult was only used when there were too many planes on deck to do a 'deck run' takeoff.  And the catapult was hydraulic powered--no steam.  Most of the time you would just make a deck run takeoff.

 

...I was just thinking...it would be totally awesome if the WWII carriers in DCS would automatically re-spot planes in real time, and animated!!  I think it could be done.  Animated, AI flight deck crew would bring Avengers up on the elevators and roll them to the aft flight deck, wings folded.  Then they would bring up Wildcats and roll them aft, ahead of the Avengers.  Meanwhile, the ship would be turning into the wind.  Then launch those AI planes....with a player's plane embedded in the crowd, perhaps.  Any extra planes would then be brought up from the hangar deck and positioned forward on the flight deck, as the ship turns back downwind to maintain its "station".  Before the flights return, the ship would turn back into the wind and be ready to recover aircraft.  As planes land, deck crews will fold their wings and position them forward on the flight deck, taking some of the arrived aircraft below to the hangar deck for servicing.  So the elevators will animate, taking aircraft below.  When all planes are recovered, the carrier will turn back to downwind and crews will position planes aft again to prepare for the launch of the next flights.  And so on, cycling like that.  Now that would be pretty awesome!  ...And then a line of IJN battleships come out of the straights...

...and all of this in VR goggles!!  It would be like you were there in 1944.

 

Once that automated AI carrier gets perfected, do the same for Yorktown-class and Lexington-class carriers, with F4F-4 Wildcats, SBD Dauntlesses and TBD-1 Devastators on deck for Battle of Coral Sea and Battle of Midway scenarios and maps.  A Midway map should be pretty quick to produce, shouldn't it?  Almost all ocean with mostly deep, deep water.

 

Can you do it, Magnitude?  Well, maybe with some help of DCS and other 3rd Parties.  🙂  I give you until 2024 to complete it.  🙂 

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I really hope we will see some "Super Carrier style" WW2 carriers in DCS in the not too distant future. Would be a waste to code all theses possibilities and then use them only for modern ships.

 

In WW2 a number of Marine Corps F4U-1D squadrons flew from four escort carriers during the time of the Okinawa campaign until the end of the war. USS Block Island (VMF-511), USS Gilbert Islands (VMF-512), USS Cape Gloucester (VMF-351) and USS Vella Gulf (VMF-513). All Commencement Bay-class ships.   

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More pix please of the Corsair and carrier please. Between dcs and il2 there’s plenty of ww2 action currently but no pacific.  Are there longer term plans around say an avenger or hellcat?
 

Can’t wait for those carrier landings and takeoffs. 
 

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On 2/12/2021 at 3:31 AM, Cunctator said:

I really hope we will see some "Super Carrier style" WW2 carriers in DCS in the not too distant future. Would be a waste to code all theses possibilities and then use them only for modern ships.

 

In WW2 a number of Marine Corps F4U-1D squadrons flew from four escort carriers during the time of the Okinawa campaign until the end of the war. USS Block Island (VMF-511), USS Gilbert Islands (VMF-512), USS Cape Gloucester (VMF-351) and USS Vella Gulf (VMF-513). All Commencement Bay-class ships.   

I would love to see a few Jeep carriers come to DCS World to host those Marine squadrons and hopefully one day, some TBM's to go along with them!! 👍

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On 2/12/2021 at 2:26 AM, Andrew8604 said:

Yes, a WWII Essex ship would work just fine as a Korea-era Essex.  I think only the Oriskany had the modified island, until about 1955 when more were so modified.  The others, were still 'stock'. 

I was wrong here.  Looks like Essex, Kearsarge and Lake Champlain were all also in the Korean conflict with the same SCB-27A modification to island superstructure and two Hydraulic catapults, and quad 40mm mounts replaced with twin 3in/50 mounts, like Oriskany.  And at some point, at least some of the "short-bow" (short hull) ships, like Essex, were modified with a long bow.  And when those ships were further modified after 1955, with SCB-125, they received the enclosed "Hurricane bows" and angled flight decks.  Which then led to several of them serving in the Vietnam War.  But there were also 7 of the Essex-class carriers that participated in the Korean conflict in pretty much the WWII configuration.  

 

All-in-all, I think the Essex carrier being made for the F4U-1D would be fine for use in a Korean Conflict scenario...if we ever get any Korean Conflict-era Naval aircraft...and I hope we do, starting with an F4U-4 or -4B. 🙂  ...off in the future, somewhere.

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4 hours ago, lt_d4n said:

No news?, seem to have disappeared like the mosquito

And the Kiowa.... I'm wondering if they're ALL waiting for 2.7. Which if so cool, but like.... tell us.

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There are no news because development currently demands full attention.  But I will try to get some news once time permits.

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On 2/12/2021 at 3:26 AM, Andrew8604 said:

I hope they would follow it up with an F4U-4 and -4B ( I think the 'B' swaps out the six 50-cal's for four 20mm's?).

 Actually it was the "1C" model with the 4X20mm.

 

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Hello,

 

I don't mean to be a pest but I can't help but notice that there haven't been any new screenshots for six weeks. I know you don't want to make an announcement until the time is right but maybe a few bread crumbs for those of us wandering in the desert?

 

Anyway, what you've shown so far looks fantastic and I can't wait for the module.

 

All my love,

JD

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7 hours ago, JD Swann said:

Hello,

 

I don't mean to be a pest but I can't help but notice that there haven't been any new screenshots for six weeks. I know you don't want to make an announcement until the time is right but maybe a few bread crumbs for those of us wandering in the desert?

 

Anyway, what you've shown so far looks fantastic and I can't wait for the module.

 

All my love,

JD

On 3/13/2021 at 8:21 AM, Hiromachi said:

There are no news because development currently demands full attention.  But I will try to get some news once time permits.

 

Hiromachi just said he would work on a news update last week Brother. 

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1 hour ago, Rakkis said:

Hiromachi just said he would work on a news update last week Brother.

I know, right? A whole week ago. Where's the update! 🙂

 

Seriously, I don't expect them to stop work just to keep me happy, but I would love some more screenshots if they can find the time.  If not, I'll live.

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