SMan Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Can someone explain to me why I should be excited about this map? Is it purely for Red Flag type missions? Online Multiplayer? This is not a criticism, but it just seems an odd one to pursue compared to the other possible maps that could've been developed to suite the likes of the F86/Mig15 and the WW2 era aircraft. Cheers, SMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwd2 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Can someone explain to me why I should be excited about this map? Is it purely for Red Flag type missions? Online Multiplayer? This is not a criticism, but it just seems an odd one to pursue compared to the other possible maps that could've been developed to suite the likes of the F86/Mig15 and the WW2 era aircraft. Cheers, SMan Because it is a NEW Map. It is big (600 km x 610km) You can crash helicopter into trees and soon.... (Remember NTTR is a test object for ED .... after it we will get Normandy,Strait of Hormuz much faster!) 1 Playing: F-16C Intel i7-13700KF, 64GB DDR5 @5600MHz, RTX 4080 ZOTAC Trinity, WIN 11 64Bit Prof. Squadron "Serious Uglies" / Discord-Server: https://discord.gg/2WccwBh Ghost0815 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMan Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Because it is a NEW Map. (Remember NTTR is a test object for ED .... after it we will get Normandy,Strait of Hormuz much faster!) I see, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangi Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I wish I had your money !!! :thumbup: I wish I had your rig.. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaisocom Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Im just curious and really no offense, but why do you want to stay with steam at any costs? If you really want the NTTR pre purchased and other discounts and so on, why don't you just switch to the stand alone DCS?? You can use all your purchases from steam in a standalone DCS.In the past I use stand alone DCS before switching to Steam version. The reason being that the download speed from ED server is really bad here in Thailand. A download speed from ED usually stay around 20-40 KB/s, on some day if I were lucky enough I can get around 200 KB/s. While with Steam version I can get up to 2.4 MB/s. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CM HAF-X | Corsair HX1000i | ASUS P8P67Pro | Intel Core i7 2600 @ 4.0GHz | Corsair CWCH70 | G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600MHz | ASUS GeForce GTX 970 4GB | Plextor M5Pro 256GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB * 2 RAID 0 | WD Caviar Green 2TB | Windows 10 Professional X64 | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom453 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 In the past I use stand alone DCS before switching to Steam version. The reason being that the download speed from ED server is really bad here in Thailand. A download speed from ED usually stay around 20-40 KB/s, on some day if I were lucky enough I can get around 200 KB/s. While with Steam version I can get up to 2.4 MB/s. The speed of the DCS servers significantly increased in speed (for me in South Australia) about 9-12 months ago (can't quite remember when). However, before this speed increase I use to use a torrent download rather than one of the specific FTP mirrors. Like you it was too slow. These torrent files downloaded at quite reasonable speeds. I see the torrent files are still listed there underneath each of the the FTP list for DCSW and each modules. You could give them a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Torrent is much faster New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
average_pilot Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 But the speed issue is with the auto-update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangi Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Download speeds have been great for the last couple of years for me Used to be 30-50kb/s and now 800-900kb/s, which is the same as I get from steam. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 But the speed issue is with the auto-update. When everybody autoupdates! Sure very logic!:megalol: New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm sure most will go for a clean install since this is a major update. With that in mind the torrent download will be a fast option. Like many, depending on your ISP, the autoupdater has been pretty damned good for some time now. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spadje Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I will be doing a clean install, just hate to deactivate and reactivate. I love this sim so much but really hate starforce.... AMD Ryzen 9 3900x, 64GB DDR 4, MSI Ventus 2070 Super, Samsung 970 M.2 NVMe, WD Blue 512GB SSD, TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Acer AH101 WMR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 If we have the open beta installed now and we just go for the update push...what are we generally talking about with regards to left over artifacts? Is is really an issue that takes much space or is it an issue of clutter that may affect execution? There has to be a good reason for the preference of a clean install. Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chann3l Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Officially prepurchased!!! I do have a question though, I know there us the open alpha in November but what is this I keep hearing about early access? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaisocom Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The speed of the DCS servers significantly increased in speed (for me in South Australia) about 9-12 months ago (can't quite remember when). However, before this speed increase I use to use a torrent download rather than one of the specific FTP mirrors. Like you it was too slow. These torrent files downloaded at quite reasonable speeds. I see the torrent files are still listed there underneath each of the the FTP list for DCSW and each modules. You could give them a try. Maybe I'll give them a try. Thanks for the info. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CM HAF-X | Corsair HX1000i | ASUS P8P67Pro | Intel Core i7 2600 @ 4.0GHz | Corsair CWCH70 | G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600MHz | ASUS GeForce GTX 970 4GB | Plextor M5Pro 256GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB * 2 RAID 0 | WD Caviar Green 2TB | Windows 10 Professional X64 | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Pharoah Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Download speeds have been great for the last couple of years for me Used to be 30-50kb/s and now 800-900kb/s, which is the same as I get from steam. ah yes. Well done to ED on this. I used to avoid updating like the plague (4kbps :cry:). the other day I decided to download all the other modules that I'd purchased but not downloaded (eg p51, me109, fw190) and it downloaded at 1.2mbps!! :thumbup: I don't know how they did it but I'm very impressed. C'mon ED lets have at the NTTR map. I want to :joystick: AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyforDCS Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I get great download speeds from the autoupdater, in average about 1.2 Mb/s. (Please don't confuse Mb/s with Mbps, they are NOT the same thing). Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrayen Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I don't know how they did it but I'm very impressed. The word is CDN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvi Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I will be doing a clean install, just hate to deactivate and reactivate. I love this sim so much but really hate starforce.... You don't have to deactivate and reactivate your modules for a clean install. Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3NTRY11 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I get great download speeds from the autoupdater, in average about 1.2 Mb/s. (Please don't confuse Mb/s with Mbps, they are NOT the same thing). Actually, they are exactly the same. It is MB/s / MBps and Mb/s / Mbps that are different. You should have said 1.2MB/s Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyforDCS Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Actually, they are exactly the same. It is MB/s / MBps and Mb/s / Mbps that are different. You should have said 1.2MB/s Yup. Thanks for correcting my typo. 1 Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Sorry to burst your bubble, but they said the new explosion effects were not going to be available right at release. But it will be interesting to see if there is an FPS increase anyways. exactly. :) :thumbup: I always loved the 97 effect and for the most part, was ok with its fps. But the 87 was the more problematic one with major stuttering...so looking forward to see how it will go. :) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spadje Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 You don't have to deactivate and reactivate your modules for a clean install. Really? Just uninstall and install the new version and I don't have to reactivate? AMD Ryzen 9 3900x, 64GB DDR 4, MSI Ventus 2070 Super, Samsung 970 M.2 NVMe, WD Blue 512GB SSD, TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Acer AH101 WMR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Sith locked the general 1.5/2.0 discussion thread so hopefully I'll get my answer here. Now that 2.0 + NTTR is set for late in November, will we still get 1.5 in September as per Wags' statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 15, 2015 ED Team Share Posted September 15, 2015 Sith locked the general 1.5/2.0 discussion thread so hopefully I'll get my answer here. Now that 2.0 + NTTR is set for late in November, will we still get 1.5 in September as per Wags' statement? That's the plan. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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