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Well that's clearly utter nonsense because if true, they'd never have had a second person in the first place.

 

Uh... no... See, the aircraft is flyable, and fightable, with a single man, particularly in the computer world. In real life, it's a different matter, with far more effectiveness provided by a second crewmember due to the intensive work required by the older technology, and as mentioned, cockpit layout requirements.

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Multicrew on the F-14 (and other modules) is terribly interesting to debate. But... Back on topic... ;)

 

I found something missing from the Mi-8 cockpit with the latest 2.0 update. Please put it back!!

 

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Only joking. ;)

 

Thanks for the continuing love and support for this awesome heli! :)

 

Is this available in 1.5

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Yes everything is running. Both generators are on. But I don't know if i made any mistake. Can you guys confirm that you can see the lights turn on in cargo bay?

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Yes and no. The thing is, we have advantages the real aircraft didn't have. The biggest one is we can map any button from any position to our HOTAS/keyboard. I don't have to reach 2 meters off to the right to hit the flare button in the Mi-8, it's a thumb button on my throttle. I also don't have to reach across the cockpit to cycle the pylon knob, it's left/right on one of my X-55's many hats.

 

That's personal preference. For me, the charm of DCS is hitting the buttons and switches. It's what makes the game feel like a simulator. I use track IR to look around and find the button I need in my cockpit. I want a co-pilot for this.

 

Navigation, spotting targets, calling missile launches, as well as having someone to take the controls while I go get a drink are some of the advantages multicrew brings. I find flying tiring. There's so much to do. I want to do it with friends. The only way I can see this being terrible is lag. If my Mi-8 is warping all over the place, I'm not gonna want to fly.

 

In multiplayer servers, I'd love to see multicrew counted as one player from a balance perspective. Otherwise it makes more sense to just bring more airframes.

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Yes everything is running. Both generators are on. But I don't know if i made any mistake. Can you guys confirm that you can see the lights turn on in cargo bay?

 

I think they just didn't add visual effect. They only activated the circuit breaker.

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I'm not talking about the module but the feature of removable gunsight.

 

The removable gunsight is not available in 1.5.3 release/open beta yet. Checked it yesterday

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Please add camera option for cargo bay just like when I press 1,2 or 3 to switch different seating position. I would like 4 to be used to switch to cargo bay( The back compartment of the heli).


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News No.26

 

Hide PKV gunsight.

 

It is removable PKV gunsight. The PKV gunsight is now removed together with the holders of еxternal weapon stations.

 

 

 

In a future update will be. You need to wait.

 

Still no removable gunsight in 1.5 after lates patch. I think they were atleast 3 updates since this what AlexandrT wrote. I'm mean if you are gonna delay it every second atleast tell us predicted time when will you put it.

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Still no removable gunsight in 1.5 after lates patch. I think they were atleast 3 updates since this what AlexandrT wrote. I'm mean if you are gonna delay it every second atleast tell us predicted time when will you put it.

 

removable in 2.0.2 still waiting for 1.5 :noexpression:

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News №30.

 

For the purpose of bigger approach of perception of management Mi-8MTB2 of DCS to real, specialists of the company Belsimtek enter into game new control for joysticks - "JOYSTICK WITHOUT SPRINGS AND FFB".

 

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That is trimming option for joysticks without springs and without feedback (FFB – Force Feedback)."

 

Features of use of joysticks of various designs.

 

As in the real helicopter the handle of a cyclic step of the helicopter, practically never is in strictly central situation and at the same time the mechanism of trim effect is actively used (fixing by springs of any situation CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM), the joystick with feedback (FFB) which also, as well as in real can fix the handle in any place of admissible range of movements, is ideal option for management of helicopter model. Position of the handle of the joystick with feedback (FFB) always corresponds to situation CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM in a virtual cabin. Almost exact imitation of work of CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM, as in the real helicopter is created. In the ordinary joystick the handle is kept by springs in the central situation, and the player needs or to overcome constantly efforts of springs, or to use function of the "EXPECTATION of RETURN TO the CENTER" control that does not allow to play comfortably on models of helicopters.

 

Because joysticks with FFB feedback, are rather rare on sale presently, and also are quite expensive, enthusiasts of the Mi-8MTB2 module with support Belsimtek conducted research on the basis of the COBRA M5 joystick

 

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, for the purpose of a possibility of its completion regarding acquisition of the main property by it from FFB joysticks – possibilities of free movement and deduction without efforts of the handle of the game device on any mode of flight of model of the helicopter.,

Centering springs which keep the handle in the center were removed from the COBRA M5 joystick. And under axes of longitudinal and cross rocking chairs, washers, for the purpose of creation of loading effect for the joystick handle were enclosed (that there was no "falling" of the handle at a hand).

 

For a perception correctness the simulator of such modifed joystick and at the same time preservations of sound effect of trimming into game entered new control for joysticks with the withdrawn springs - "JOYSTICK WITHOUT SPRINGS AND FFB".

This function allows to synchronize when pressing the button of the trimmer position of the virtual handle with position of the handle of the joystick on various modes of flight.

 

Flights on DCS: Mi-8 MTB2, with use of the COBRA M5 joystick and remote springs, showed excellent imitation of work of CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM, full compliance of situation CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM in a virtual cabin and joystick handles. Running start of indexes of the autopilot decreased, management became more exact, unpleasant twitchings of the handle of management when using the "trimming with return to the center" mode due to the lack of need of return of the handle of the joystick to the central situation for removal of effort from joystick springs disappeared. In general flights became more smooth.

 

Testing was carried out by real pilots of MI-8 who confirmed high extent of approach of motility of movements with the handle of the COBRA M5 joystick with remote springs to work as real CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM.

 

It is natural that some time should be spent for accustoming to the new scheme of management, to wean from finding of the handle of management of the joystick in the center. But more real feelings received subsequently when flying on "eight", compensate everything!

 

At desire to feel how moves in flight of CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM of the real helicopter, to receive more exact skills of management of the eight, each user, using these recommendations, will be able to make simple alterations of the joystick.

 

 

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Cleaning of springs from pedals will add more real perception of control of helicopter.

 

can we also remove ch fighter stick's centering springs?

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What does washers for creating of loading effect mean? You modified the stick or does it come with washers to keep the handle from flopping around when your hand is removed? Can you describe what you did a little better for me? I'm looking for a low cost alternative to a custom long shaft cyclic and this interests me but I am not following your description for the modification to the m5 at all. Thanks.

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What does washers for creating of loading effect mean? You modified the stick or does it come with washers to keep the handle from flopping around when your hand is removed? Can you describe what you did a little better for me? I'm looking for a low cost alternative to a custom long shaft cyclic and this interests me but I am not following your description for the modification to the m5 at all. Thanks.

They made the movement stiffer, so it would hold the current position and not "flop over" if they let go of the stick.

 

I did the same thing with a Saitek AV8R joystick, but I didn't figure out a good way to add friction, so I'd be interested to hear how this was done.


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that's great, now only thing we need rain drops to clear on glasses

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