Trim & Flap Wheel Issues

[JG13]

Thank You for all your hard work:thumbup:

You can hear the trim wheel spinning but it seems to have a big deadzone in the middle because after a few rotations it will begin to move. you can move the trim a little bit and you can see trim wheel moving but you need to pull it back to neutral position to get it to stop, if you want to go the other way you need to turn the wheel a few times then it will start to go the other way. you can only make the wheel move or stop like a lever. using Saitek trim wheel as the flap wheel does not work either acts in the same way.

[ZaltysZ]

Flaps and trim axis are not absolute, but directional. This means, if you have joystick axis mapped to flaps or trim, then:

 

1) moving joystick axis closer to center position would slowdown flaps or trim wheel movement

2) moving joystick axis away from center position would speed up flaps or trim movement.

 

Why we don't have absolute axis for trim and flaps? It is really cumbersome the way it is, if you want precision or exploit muscle memory.

[Reksi-Erkki]

Why we don't have absolute axis for trim and flaps? It is really cumbersome the way it is, if you want precision or exploit muscle memory.

 

Exactly. A multiturn pot for the trim wheel and flaps would be excellent!

 

In the Mustang, I have the flaps mapped to a lever on my Saitek throttle quadrant, and trims onto three separate pots on a DIY controller - won't get much more realistic than that. The two remaining levers on the Saitek are used to adjust the cold and hot air intakes.

 

I'd really like to see this changed for the Bf109 before it goes out of beta.

[klem]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2516177&postcount=150

 

I'm bouncing this back to life as it's arisen in another thread where I thought it was a problem with of "1.5".

 

It really needs to be changed.

[Supongo]

Flaps Control Bug

 

After more than a year of development,and many updates, the new DCS:Bf-109K4 ver 1.5 BETA remains with the same bug in the flaps control than when the game was released.

 

[YOUTUBE]ttps://youtu.be/eDafMEcWVc8[/YOUTUBE]

 

 

We wait for v2?

 

Regards

 

Supongo

Edited October 14, 2015 by Supongo

[Zabuzard]

Here's his video:

 

[Supongo]

Here's his video:

 

 

Thanks :)

 

Supongo

[Sokol1_br]

Flaps and trim axis are not absolute, but directional.

 

Mmmm, find a "practical" use for this axis "ON/OFF" feature: create "flaps toe switch" for Bf 109.

 

Instead the boring press a button and wait ~15 seconds (?) until flaps drop, I press a modifier and briefly move rudder slight for left (sensitivity adjusted in curves), this make flaps wheel turn until flaps reach the end of course, meanwhile I can use rudder for... rudder. :D

[some1]

Not sure if this is a bug or some wicked developer's idea, but the current implementation of the trim axis is useless with the Saitek Trim Wheel.

 

And it's inconsistent with the P-51D, where the trim axis works mostly fine (except for a weird delay).

Edited November 3, 2015 by some1

[Eponsky_bot]

Why we don't have absolute axis for trim and flaps? It is really cumbersome the way it is, if you want precision or exploit muscle memory.

 

This is done on purpose, to avoid cheating (which allows to quickly clean up and flaps)

[bongodriver]

This is done on purpose, to avoid cheating (which allows to quickly clean up and flaps)

 

it doesn't avoid it at all though, you can still quickly clean up the flaps and you can still assign the flaps to buttons on the joystick.

All it does is prevent people from using the wheels in a more realistic way.

[Siegfried]

Bongo is right, I can asign an axis of my Saitek quadrant trhottle and it is like automatic system. I want a axis for control more realistic.

 

There are other axis too in the cockpit with wrong axis too.

[some1]

This is done on purpose, to avoid cheating (which allows to quickly clean up and flaps)

 

And why it's possible to do that on P-51 then?

[bongodriver]

At least it would be nice to have a realistic trim/flap axis for offline flying, I still don't see how this apparent cheat works, instant trim and flaps would cause more problems than benefits in real life.

is there any evidence that people really can cheat like this?

[some1]

This issue is more than a year old, any chance it will be fixed?

 

Right now it is not possible to use realistic trim hardware, like the Saitek trim wheel.

[Racoon]

Hi some1

Thanks for resurrect this thread )

We'll fix this ASAP.

[some1]

You're welcome :)

 

[IIIJG52_Otto_]

New update beta 1.5.3.50355.19

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2681227&postcount=14

...

DCS Bf 109-K4

• Implemented cockpit camera movement options regarding gunsight retaining movement
  
• Corrected Flight manual
  
• Reduced flaps control wheel to 8 turns total.
  

...

 

 

Flaps bug fixed, thank you E.D. :thumbup:

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

True Otto...

 

converging towards Perfection :-)

 

It's unique in many aspects, even if from time to time it needs some tuning, and they give us that tuning :-)

 

Really looking forward for:

 

1) The EDGE conversion of the Caucasus Map;

2) The new Weather features to come with EDGE;

3) The Spitfire, P47, ... more rotary wing....

[...]

N) The Normandy Map;

[...]

[N+k] a flyable ww2 glider to go with Normandy :-)

[...]

[MAD-MM]

Lol flying with a K-8 through Normandy map, but this not a bad idear...

Dont know how good the thermal environment is currently in DCS :)

[mugen]

Lol flying with a K-8 through Normandy map, but this not a bad idear...

Dont know how good the thermal environment is currently in DCS :)

 

K-8 is from 1957, i think jcomm has something like this in mind ...

 

 

 

greez mugen

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

Exactlly one of those mugen!!!

 

Thx! :thumbup:

[MAD-MM]

German countermessure :)

 

[Racoon]

Could anyone please check if Saitek trim wheel works correct now?

[Sokol1_br]

On ordinary axis still the same, the axis are a on/off switch.