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Hi guys, i wanna share my experience with new device (at least for me) called GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT. It is made by russians located in Sankt Petersburg. They took massage device and adopt it to the arcade tank game. Then =Andre= took it even further and adopt it to the DCS World.

I think it is now pretty mature device and worth talk about it.

So what we have here:

 

it looks like massage pad with built in 8 vibro motors (4 for each side left/right located 4 on your seat and 4 on your back) made from synthetic leather controlled by USB controller (also an option to use audio input but it less actual in DCS). I put it on my chair - plug it in - run SW called iba Effects - run DCS and.... speechless.

I never had experience with FF joystick but FF on your body is amazing.

When you taxi you can feel concrete plates junctions, you don't have look on AoA you can feel it, air brake on - vibrate your back. Guns - is amazing.

The list of effects supported by now you can find here: http://sim-pit.blogspot.ru/p/english.html

 

WEB Shop:http://shop.gametrix.ru/vibronakidki.html

 

all credits for the SW to =Andre= He did amazing job - want to thank him!

 

Blog in english: ibaBlog :http://sim-pit.blogspot.ru/p/english.html

 

DCS forum link in russian (hope google can help to translate) http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=79326&highlight=%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BA%D0%B0&page=80

 

regarding the language - belive google can help here.

 

 

one more thing - it cost <$100

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Simple strategy for you: Complain about your back and ask your wife every evening to give you a shoulder / back massage with oil etc. and I assure you, after a week or so, she will gladly approve

It has to inclined at this level to use the valve index comfortably

Andre, what a great product, I could finally test it tonight. S8mply amazing to have a whole another level of immersion.

Thanks for letting us know, this looks excellent. Just read future support for DCS helicopters:thumbup:

 

Helicopters already supported. You can just install IbaEffects from here

http://sim-pit.blogspot.ru/p/blog-page.html (you don't need device)

and see all supports features, the SW has auto update on start.

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cool thanks, can you elaborate please what was updated?

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So someone figured out how to make software for DCS World that the SimVibe guys said was too much trouble?

 

It would be nice if we could get this software to work with our buttkickers and other similar LFE shaker devices, are there any prospects for this Andre, or are you teamed up exclusively with the guys who make this vibration pad? A lot of us already own vibration devices that are hooked up to our simpits, but the vibrations use audio only and are lackluster. I would pay for the software if you added support to output an audio signal instead of USB.

 

This seems like it could quickly become an expensive paperweight if you purchase it + the massage device and it is never updated to include full functionality for one of the most popular planes like the A-10C, new planes as they come out such as the F/A-18, or when an ED patch breaks the functionality and the software itself is not patched in turn because the developer has moved on.

 

Not to mention draping the massage device over a nicely built simpit would throw off the look; kind of out of place, it would be a lot of work to disassemble it and integrate it into my existing chair and then worry about the aforementioned software going out of date.


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So someone figured out how to make software for DCS World that the SimVibe guys said was too much trouble?

 

It would be nice if we could get this software to work with our buttkickers and other similar LFE shaker devices, are there any prospects for this Andre, or are you teamed up exclusively with the guys who make this vibration pad? A lot of us already own vibration devices that are hooked up to our simpits, but the vibrations use audio only and are lackluster. I would pay for the software if you added support to output an audio signal instead of USB.

 

This seems like it could quickly become an expensive paperweight if you purchase it + the massage device and it is never updated to include full functionality for one of the most popular planes like the A-10C, new planes as they come out such as the F/A-18, or when an ED patch breaks the functionality and the software itself is not patched in turn because the developer has moved on.

 

Not to mention draping the massage device over a nicely built simpit would throw off the look; kind of out of place, it would be a lot of work to disassemble it and integrate it into my existing chair and then worry about the aforementioned software going out of date.

 

I agree with you. The device was developed for use rather with an office chair, than with an iron simpit.

KW-90(X) features sound input mode (as alternative to USB mode) right out of the box, no additional software needed.


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Gametrix JetSeats thread (in English) ,

SimShaker addon for bass-shakers thread (in English),

Andre's blog, downloads, manuals (in English).

 

 

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hi Vulcan, you always have an option to stick with what you already have.

This device use completely different approach - here we have 8 different zones where vibro effect could be applied independently (controlled by SW, script, export.lua etc...). The buttkickers coud be split to just two (for stereo) and based on sound which is poor implementation - may be fit for movies but not for game.

Regarding the integration in cockpit - i think it's doable with a little work.

Also cost - nothing compare to 8 buttkickers.

at least worth to try, get impression and decide.

Regarding SW support/update - =Andre= already did good job to provide many features support and also i belive more people be involved will help to develope even more - this is community advantage.


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Wow, such great device. I have an IKEA Poang chair which I think will receive this gadget gladly. I just sent an email to gametrix shop support to check for further details.

 

Thanks a lot for heads up guys.

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This a great idea but without direct support from ED, I would be extremely concerned that it could become useless after a future patch.

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Seems that is using sounds as input. Handy enough to retune after a patch like 1.2.12 where some sounds where changed. However, I am really concerned when sounds mods are applied. Some extensive work to retune is needed....

 

This is my understanding about this gadget!

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Seems that is using sounds as input. Handy enough to retune after a patch like 1.2.12 where some sounds where changed. However, I am really concerned when sounds mods are applied. Some extensive work to retune is needed....

 

This is my understanding about this gadget!

I use export.lua data as input, not sound.

Gametrix JetSeats thread (in English) ,

SimShaker addon for bass-shakers thread (in English),

Andre's blog, downloads, manuals (in English).

 

 

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This a great idea but without direct support from ED, I would be extremely concerned that it could become useless after a future patch.

 

Nobody knows the future (sorry for my poor English). At present ED support team helps me to fix the issues with Su-27 after recent FM update.

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Ooops, seems I missunderstood something.

Andre, could you briefly describe how the forces are captured from DCS? Is it from DirectX API, another propietary API? Would be very valuable for us.

 

Also, as I mentioned yesterday, I wrote an email to the gametrix shop zakaz@shop.gametrix.ru, but have no answer yet. Could you please help me with some info or another contact to clarify some delivery aspects?

 

Thanks in advance.

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Ooops, seems I missunderstood something.

Andre, could you briefly describe how the forces are captured from DCS? Is it from DirectX API, another propietary API? Would be very valuable for us.

 

Also, as I mentioned yesterday, I wrote an email to the gametrix shop zakaz@shop.gametrix.ru, but have no answer yet. Could you please help me with some info or another contact to clarify some delivery aspects?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Hi Abburo!

I use Lua exporting in DCS to get data needed for effects creation.

 

About Gametrix shop I'll try to clarify things.

Gametrix JetSeats thread (in English) ,

SimShaker addon for bass-shakers thread (in English),

Andre's blog, downloads, manuals (in English).

 

 

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Also, as I mentioned yesterday, I wrote an email to the gametrix shop zakaz@shop.gametrix.ru, but have no answer yet. Could you please help me with some info or another contact to clarify some delivery aspects?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

They said (may be unofficially) there are no devices to sell in Europe at the moment. They're going to sell it through War Thunder Europe internet shop, but not right now.

 

PS I think I could post to you my spare KW-901 as a parcel. Or I could buy brand new KW-908 here in Russia and send it to you.

Gametrix JetSeats thread (in English) ,

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It was over $200 delivered from that shop in Ukraine. I have done more research and read the reviews people have posted on different online stores, lots of people seem to have failures of the device both early on and after one year, and require warranty support or have to purchase a new one.

 

For spending this much money to have it shipped here, with no option to send it back should it break it seems like a unwise investment. There was also a couple complaints that the motors that vibrate were fairly weak.

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