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Old 07-02-2020, 02:43 PM   #1
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Default More realistic Tor SAM missile selfdestruct-logic

The self-destruct currently seems very unlogical, in this example, as the target climbs through 6000 meters (long after missile fired), missile self-destructs although it can easily reach the target, still going 2600 km/h and within 2 km of the slow-moving target... https://ufile.io/iqs8l1z3
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Old 07-02-2020, 03:16 PM   #2
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And how exactly would your wish fulfilled result in more realism than what we've got now? Where's your evidence?
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:33 PM   #3
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What's the max ceiling for the SAM? What is the target altitude when the SAM self destructs?


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Old 07-02-2020, 05:05 PM   #4
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Why does a SAM self-destruct its missile that has energy to intercept the target, unless it is a target not to be shot down?

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Old 07-02-2020, 05:08 PM   #5
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No idea. Suggest you either ask the manufacturer, or provide evidence of this being wrongly modelled if in doubt.
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Why does a SAM self-destruct its missile that has energy to intercept the target, unless it is a target not to be shot down?



If a SAM is nearing its max ceiling or max range, why wouldn't it self destruct?
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:45 PM   #7
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Why does a SAM self-destruct its missile that has energy to intercept the target, unless it is a target not to be shot down?
Patriot has a setting called URLAT , for urban low altitude trajectory of something like that. It prevents an intercept if that will take place below a certain altitude over populated areas. Prevents the missile from chasing a target where the intercept will cause more damage than letting the target go in on it's own. The missile will cease the engagement , travel to a different trajectory and self destruct.

If I remember correctly, a cease engagement command will destroy missiles in flight, but I can't remember what command it was (there was another that allowed missiles in the air to continue the engagement, but no further missiles could be launched against a target

It wouldn't surprise me if tor had similar capabilities to half an engagement

Its entirely possible that it's set to autodestruct if it loses its radio downlink for a certain amount of time.
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What's the max ceiling for the SAM? What is the target altitude when the SAM self destructs?




What's your source?
According to wiki, max ceiling is 6000m , speed 850m/s (3060km/h) and a range of 12 km
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The self-destruct currently seems very unlogical, in this example, as the target climbs through 6000 meters (long after missile fired), missile self-destructs although it can easily reach the target, still going 2600 km/h and within 2 km of the slow-moving target... https://ufile.io/iqs8l1z3
So,lemme get this straight: the target climbs outside of the missiles operational envelope and you think it's illogical that the missile destroys itself rather than continues on an invalid engagement?
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According to wiki, max ceiling is 6000m , speed 850m/s (3060km/h) and a range of 12 km



I was actually asking DanielNL so he would understand and actually answer his own problem. He is having a very great deal of difficulty using SAMs in game and refuses any help we give him. Instead he states they are bugs or makes unfounded and completely fabricated claims that it is unrealistic for a SAM to self destruct when target is outside max range or ceiling.

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