fitness88 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 DCS used to have ASW key bindings that allowed control of ASW [ASW off, 45FPS, 90FPS] like OTT has, I can't seem to find them anymore. Is OTT the only way to control ASW? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper175 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 The control 1 to 4 works for me when I use the rift. I7-8700 @5GHZ, 32GB 3000MHZ RAM, 1080TI, Rift S, ODYSSEY +. SSD DRIVES, WIN10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 DCS used to have ASW key bindings that allowed control of ASW [ASW off, 45FPS, 90FPS] like OTT has, I can't seem to find them anymore. Is OTT the only way to control ASW? Thank you. DCS has never had that ability. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Anti Submarine Warfare is currently not simulated in DCS. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 DCS has never had that ability. There were ingame combo key strokes that worked quite well...perhaps they were directed toward OR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElementLT Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I remember these shortcut keys for the rift that controls ASW. not sure if this what you mean. Control-Numpad1: Disables ASW and returns to the standard rendering mode. Control-Numpad2: Forces apps to 45Hz with ASW disabled. Depending on the application, you are likely to experience judder. Control-Numpad3: Forces apps to 45Hz with ASW enabled. Enabling and disabling ASW will help you see the effects of ASW. Control-Numpad4: Enables ASW. ASW automatically turns on and off, depending on whether the app maintains a 90Hz frame rate. This is the default runtime rendering mode. There were ingame combo key strokes that worked quite well...perhaps they were directed toward OR. Coming Soon... The Fraternity Returns : https://thefraternitysim.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper175 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I remember these shortcut keys for the rift that controls ASW. not sure if this what you mean. Control-Numpad1: Disables ASW and returns to the standard rendering mode. Control-Numpad2: Forces apps to 45Hz with ASW disabled. Depending on the application, you are likely to experience judder. Control-Numpad3: Forces apps to 45Hz with ASW enabled. Enabling and disabling ASW will help you see the effects of ASW. Control-Numpad4: Enables ASW. ASW automatically turns on and off, depending on whether the app maintains a 90Hz frame rate. This is the default runtime rendering mode. those are them and they still work for me anyways, on open beta I7-8700 @5GHZ, 32GB 3000MHZ RAM, 1080TI, Rift S, ODYSSEY +. SSD DRIVES, WIN10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Those key combos for ASW settings are Rift software settings, not DCS software. Why the blazes Oculus did not just include that in a user friendly GUI in their software is beyond me. AFAIK the key combos still work, though some have reported them to be "iffy" at times. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachomaga Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 As other users said, still working, I used every day to turn off AWS. The only problems I found is when I hit Num Lock by mistake and thought that the combo doesn’t work (not easy when you have the headset, hehe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) Thanks all for the follow-up and clarification. Is that left or right ctrl? Any feedback on the 4 different ASW options? Edited August 15, 2018 by fitness88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Thanks all for the follow-up and clarification. Is that left or right ctrl? Any feedback on the 4 different ASW options? I seem to get best results on my system with ASW off. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I seem to get best results on my system with ASW off. The blurriness of instrument panels when moving your head rapidly from left to right when ASW is switched off, makes ASW essential for me. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 The blurriness of instrument panels when moving your head rapidly from left to right when ASW is switched off, makes ASW essential for me. I can't recall seeing such blurriness. Perhaps I do not move my head as rapidly or something. I am getting old... Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 ASW is there to help machines that can’t maintain the proper frame rate. if your machine doesn’t need help, you can turn it off... then again, if your machine doesn’t need help, it will never kick in in the first place. so it doesn’t hurt to leave it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I can't recall seeing such blurriness. Perhaps I do not move my head as rapidly or something. I am getting old... Blurriness was perhaps the wrong word, stuttering might be better. It's all down to what fps you are running. I prefer to have very high settings and a lower fps. With AWS off, and if you are getting 90fps, you will not see the effect I am talking about. With frame rates of 50-80 and AWS off, just sit on the ramp in a F-5 or Hornet, etc. and move your head left and right. You will see what I mean. The same effect at between 45 and 90 fps can be seen by rolling left and right quickly when in flight. Switch AWS on, and none of this happens. I run at a very smooth 45fps with AWS on and am very happy with the performance. The only down side of AWS, in my opinion, is that on WWII planes, it has a horrible effect on props, and that is hard to take when flying the Spit! The effect I am talking about is less of an issue in WWII planes as they tend to have larger instruments, so maybe they are best with ASW off to avoid that horrible prop effect. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Well for whatever reason on my system I get a much better experience that appears very smooth to me, with ASW set to off. And I certainly can not maintain 90 fps, don't think any system today can do that. Only time I get stuttering that is noticeable is when my fps drops much below 45 fps. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Well for whatever reason on my system I get a much better experience that appears very smooth to me, with ASW set to off. And I certainly can not maintain 90 fps, don't think any system today can do that. Only time I get stuttering that is noticeable is when my fps drops much below 45 fps. It's not a low fps type stuttering of the type you are referring to, it's like a ghosting. This has been mentioned quite a few times in the past as a ASW effect, both here and on other forums. It's easy to see. Just sit on a ramp with very high settings, move (not turn) your head left to right a few times and see the effect on instrument dials. Using ctrl-numpad commands switch ASW on, and the effect disappears. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 ASW is there to help machines that can’t maintain the proper frame rate. if your machine doesn’t need help, you can turn it off... then again, if your machine doesn’t need help, it will never kick in in the first place. so it doesn’t hurt to leave it on. I'm kind of with you on that. the only issue is that ASW does have some bad effects, e.g. the props on WWII aircraft. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) feedback on 4 options of ASW #1: control-numpad + 1, not good, blurry #2: control-numpad + 2 not good, blurry #3: control-numpad + 3 better #4: control-numpad + 4 better, seems the same as #3 except it'll give you 90fps at higher altitude and over water. Edited August 16, 2018 by fitness88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thick8 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Anti Submarine Warfare is currently not simulated in DCS. Can't tell if you are being serious or not? :huh: Asus ROG C6H | AMD Ryzen 3600 @ 4.2Ghz | Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce WB 1080ti | 32Gb Crucial DDR4/3600 | 2Tb Intel NVMe drive | Samsung Odyssey+ VR | Thrustmaster Warthog | Saitek pedals | Custom geothermal cooling loop with a homemade 40' copper heat exchanger 35' in the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadg Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) from anti submarine warfare (ASW) to all wheel steering (AWS) try asynchronous spacewarp. and asynchronous timewarp. timewarp is the one you cant turn off. ASW locks the game engine to 45 fps and warps every other frame to make 90. timewarp makes adjustments to frames if the head is moved during render. so the frame is not dropped. this runs all the time and does not limit the engine. but it can be as jerky as a dropped frame to someone using the headset. ergo those having a jerky time with ASW off are having a problem with ATW. and need to move their heads less. Edited August 19, 2018 by Quadg My Rig: AM5 7950X, 32GB DDR5 6000, M2 SSD, EVGA 1080 Superclocked, Warthog Throttle and Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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