ajax Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 The PVI-800 will not allow entry of any western longitude > 99° 59.9' . I assume that because there was no need to do so earlier, this bug has gone unnoticed. However, with the advent of NTTR there is a need to enter these coordinates. This is not just a 2.0 open alpha issue -- the bug is present in 1.2.16 too. The original posts are here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=154106 and here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=154300 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeros Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Can confirm. I was about to report this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Is it possible for a DCS Team member or Tester to acknowledge this post and report this bug? It's not a superficial cosmetic-type bug -- it's one of the most used avionics functions of the Kamov. So it's kind of a big deal for us Black Shark pilots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGear_Honk Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Hello I just found out about this bug. is there some kind of work around? The threemost dangerous threads to Programmers: Fresh air Bright sun light The horrifying screams of singingbirds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Is it possible for a DCS Team member or Tester to acknowledge this post and report this bug? It's not a superficial cosmetic-type bug -- it's one of the most used avionics functions of the Kamov. So it's kind of a big deal for us Black Shark pilots. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarres Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnergolly Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 +2 Win 11 Home 64Bit, i7-13700K@5.2Ghz Water Cooled, 32 Gb RAM, PNY RTX4090, HP Reverb, PICO 4, Quest 3, Realsimulator FSSB R3, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ФрогФут Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Reported. Thanks. "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 Thank you, Frogfoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I noticed it yesterday too when Id like to create a WPTs in Flight Plan on Abris. Please to fix it. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 You can create a Flight Plan with the Abriss i think, marking new WP with the cursor over the map. But i didn´t try yet. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The Fix.... Its gotta be done. HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 You can create a Flight Plan with the Abriss i think, marking new WP with the cursor over the map. But i didn´t try yet. On ABRIS only its work as You describe, but no on PVI-800. For proper work in 100% Abris must be connected to PVI-800 and here is a problem. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Far as i know ABRISS and PVI are independent. They are completly autonomous. The Abriss is not connected with the PVI-800 at all, only with the datalink system and the Shkval. And the navigation system uses only the PVI-800 for autopilot modes, HSI, etc. But again i´m not sure. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St3v3f Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 There is must be some connection to the PVI-800 because the ABRIS displays the location of target waypoints aka: Baron [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 But the autopilot Route mode uses only PVI-800 waypoints, not ABRISS flight plan. The HSI also uses only PVI-800 Waypoints. It can´t show distance/bearing to a WP using the ABRISS flight plan if that is different from PVI-800 WP´s. It´s possible to have several WP in the PVI and a different Flight plan loaded in the ABRISS, but the nvaigation system is using only PVI information, both in the HSI, and the HUD. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarres Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 The ABRIS is linked with the Datalink system, but not with the navigation system. As Mirmidón says navigation system is linked only to the PVI-800. You can have a 56 WP flightplan in the ABRIS, but only 6 WP in the PVI, that is the nav system linked to the HUD and the instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 But the autopilot Route mode uses only PVI-800 waypoints, not ABRISS flight plan. If you make a NAV TGT point with the Shkval and PVI-800, it shows up on the ABRIS correctly, so St3v3f is correct—there is some interconnection. It's just purely one-way. Nothing in the K-041 nav/targeting complex is drawn from the ABRIS, but the ABRIS does draw some information of various types from the K-041 system. (It's misleading to think of 'the datalink' and 'the PVI-800' as different pieces—they're both components in the overall Rubikon system.) (There's also the occasional debate about whether the GLONASS in the ABRIS is linked to the PVI for INS updates; whether or not it's actually true, I like to claim it is, since we don't have INS drift. :P) You are generally correct, though, that making an ABRIS flight plan will not drive the navigation systems, and outside of manual copying, there's no way to move an ABRIS flight plan into the K-041 system. 1 Black Shark, Harrier, and Hornet pilot Many Words - Serial Fiction | Ka-50 Employment Guide | Ka-50 Avionics Cheat Sheet | Multiplayer Shooting Range Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Aside from manually entering the 6 first waypoints in your route into the PVI-800 and when you reach number 6, the following 6.... :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commodore 64 | MOS6510 | VIC-II | SID6581 | DD 1541 | KCS Power Cartridge | 64Kb | 32Kb external | Arcade Turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted February 1, 2016 ED Team Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Fishbreath is correct. The ABRIS only receives data from other systems, it does not send data to other systems. Aside from the basic instruments (INU, GNSS, altimeters, etc) that keep the ABRIS display correctly showing nav data, the ABRIS displays the following: 1) Datalink symbols in the form of target and wingman icons. 2) TGT points from the PVI-800 3) Shkval azimuth and estimated range Again, it only displays this information, it has no effect on it. A preplanned flight path in the mission editor will already come pre-loaded into the ABRIS and PVI (the latter of course being only the first 5 waypoints after the departure airfield) which is why it appears the ABRIS and PVI talk to each other. But the only interaction between the two systems is the PVI tells the ABRIS to display a flashing square at the location of a selected TGT point. Some further clarification regarding the PVI, there are only 5 waypoints available, and 2 additional airfield waypoints. A mission that departs from an airfield or FARP will have the starting point as Airfield Point #1, and the next waypoint as WP#1. If the pre-planned flight path has the player landing at a different airbase/FARP than the takeoff location, than the PVI flight plan will actually consist of 7 points: AF1, WP#1-WP#5, AF2. Edited February 1, 2016 by Raptor9 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooternutz Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Great info but can we enter western coordinates now or are we still at square one as per the original post? [sIGPIC]https://drive.google.com/file/d/16rUBmmJR7A3YGZVGPGskxG1XtvulGojJ/view?usp=sharing[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 We're still at square one, as far as I know. Black Shark, Harrier, and Hornet pilot Many Words - Serial Fiction | Ka-50 Employment Guide | Ka-50 Avionics Cheat Sheet | Multiplayer Shooting Range Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooternutz Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Bummer. That enroute function is fantastic when entering coordinates on the fly. [sIGPIC]https://drive.google.com/file/d/16rUBmmJR7A3YGZVGPGskxG1XtvulGojJ/view?usp=sharing[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I just tried to enter N37*17.5' W115*14.0' coordinates today to use the Ka-50 and found this bug. Trying to figure this out I entered N37*17.5' E115*14.0' maybe it will ignore hemisphere but now I am navigating to a point 267km away but in reality this point is thousands and thousands of km away from Nevada. So also all possible transients of prime meridian and/or equator should be looked at to match real equipment behavior. Can INS computer calculate great circle steering for any two coordinates (non-constant heading solutions)? What do nav instruments show for very distant destinations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 It seems this bug is still here... I hope ED will fix this soon. Creating waypoints in NTTR is impossible... f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums https://simshaker-for-aviators.github.io/SimShaker-for-Aviators-Releases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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