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Old 03-12-2013, 02:54 AM   #1
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hey guys!the last few days im really enjoying to dogfight in the p51.
but i still have some trouble to understand how to get the best performance out of it during combat...
i have set both the throttle as well as the rpm control to my warthog throttle device.(left regulates rpm, right regulates mp)
now i wonder, what i should do, to get the best performance...
-probably its not a good idea to push both levers fully forward and keep them there(60mp,3000rpm)?
-is it better to keep constant rpm(3000?) and work with the mp?
-or is it better to push the mp to 60, and change rpm(reving up in climbs, and reducing rpm during dives?)

some answers on this from experienced stang pilots, or even the devs would be appreciated!
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:28 AM   #2
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What I've done is do a level test flight and set the MP (not above 50) at certain settings and play with the prop and radiator, keep note of speeds and temps. In a DF I just open my radiators, because as you go over the top.. your engine goes into the red, and a couple top turns and the engine it phutt. - you need speed to keep it cool.

During AI practice, some say you must fly with combat flaps (one notch), but what I found is that flying with no flaps forces the AI to keep speed up as you're up there with it, and as it likes going over the top a lot and using the same FM, he starts to slow down. - Just stick on his tail for 5 minutes.. then pop him off.

This copycat maneuver teaches you to fly like the 'invincible' AI who seems to get the max out of the plane.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:15 AM   #3
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hey guys!the last few days im really enjoying to dogfight in the p51.
but i still have some trouble to understand how to get the best performance out of it during combat...
i have set both the throttle as well as the rpm control to my warthog throttle device.(left regulates rpm, right regulates mp)
now i wonder, what i should do, to get the best performance...
-probably its not a good idea to push both levers fully forward and keep them there(60mp,3000rpm)?
-is it better to keep constant rpm(3000?) and work with the mp?
-or is it better to push the mp to 60, and change rpm(reving up in climbs, and reducing rpm during dives?)

some answers on this from experienced stang pilots, or even the devs would be appreciated!
If you want to have maximal incoming energy you must use 61 3000 all the way. If you fill that you already have it more than your opponent you can reduce MP reducing rpm to 2700 and not less. Then you add full power both levers must be advanced simulteneously.
A good idea is to manually open both radiators and leave them in MANUAL. It will not give advantage but prevents possible scoops erratic work after battle damages. Of course, one can regularly check temperature gauges especially after impacts... it's up to you.

Flaps (10-20 deg) can help if you use it only when you need to reduce the instant turn performance at low speed or if you perform long tight sustained turn (and prepare the engine to boil ) that is the worst tactics, I think.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:26 AM   #4
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-probably its not a good idea to push both levers fully forward and keep them there(60mp,3000rpm)?
-is it better to keep constant rpm(3000?) and work with the mp?
-or is it better to push the mp to 60, and change rpm(reving up in climbs, and reducing rpm during dives?)
A few considerations:

Both high MP and high RPM are (even isolated) bad for your engine.

Max continuous is 45inHg@2700RPM.

High MP, low RPM -> very bad. High RPM low MP -> less bad (if below 2700 RPM, it doesn't hurt at all).

Do not under any circumstances go above 45inHg unless you are at 3000RPM or you will risk overboosting the engine, which is way more harmful than running it at take off power (61@3000). RPM and MP always need to be set in unison to obtain optimal performance (and engine life).

I usually stay at max continuous with occasional use of TO or WEP if i need it (i always try to time those, but that's not easy in the middle of a fight).

The small table on the right cockpit wall is very helpful, it lists the power settings for TO, max cont, max cruise etc. Use these as guidelines so as to not overboost the engine.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:23 AM   #5
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As he asks about combat enviroment, I must say that engine life can be terminated by enemy before it dies itself so 3000 61 (or even 67 3000 if it's too hot) is vital.
The only thing that must be kept in mind is that SPEED IS LIFE. Speed prevents from overheating even at full steam. Thus, a good idea is to keep MIL giving the engine a rest for a while when it is possible.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:34 AM   #6
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hey guys!the last few days im really enjoying to dogfight in the p51.
but i still have some trouble to understand how to get the best performance out of it during combat...
i have set both the throttle as well as the rpm control to my warthog throttle device.(left regulates rpm, right regulates mp)
now i wonder, what i should do, to get the best performance...
-probably its not a good idea to push both levers fully forward and keep them there(60mp,3000rpm)?
-is it better to keep constant rpm(3000?) and work with the mp?
-or is it better to push the mp to 60, and change rpm(reving up in climbs, and reducing rpm during dives?)

some answers on this from experienced stang pilots, or even the devs would be appreciated!
You should feel performance @ 46 in MP and 2700 RPM.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:15 AM   #7
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46 2700 is not a very wise decision, especially if you dogfighting near the altitude where blower switches its speed. If you begin fighting above this height the trottle will be retarded to maintain 46". After the blower switches to low MP will be less than 46" giving lack of power. If you in close combat this thing can be missed.
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:11 PM   #8
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A good idea is to manually open both radiators and leave them in MANUAL.
How is this possible? The manual says:

"The OPEN position of the switch is spring-loaded and must be held in this position manually in order to further open the coolant flap. Releasing the switch from the OPEN position will automatically set it to the OFF position. The OPEN position can be used for ground operations or if manual adjustment of the coolant flap is necessary in flight."

I can't hold the radiators open in a combat situation! (i use clickable cockpit and need the hand for other things)
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:25 PM   #9
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If you have a cougar or warthog throttle, you can map them to one of the toggle switches. Actually, any non-momentary switch will work.
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:35 PM   #10
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Assign any buttons (i use keyboard buttons).. Press and hold the key down - you'll hear 'motor' noises behind you as the flaps open/close
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