razo+r Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) As it is stated in this manual (http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/f/FockeWulf/Fw%20190/Fw%20190%20D-9%20Teil%208%20A%20Schusswaffen.pdf, page 23), our Dora should have the Revi 16B (https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-52955-revi-16-b-einscheibenversion-1944-2/) as the "official" gunsight, but we have the EZ-42 in it which was built in 1945 and only in a few of the last Doras used (https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-52218-ez-42-1945/). My question is, how come that we don't have the Revi16B but rather the EZ-42? Not complaining but I'm curious why that decision was made. Edited August 10, 2017 by razo+r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I almost thought they cluelessly modelled it along with the infamous wooden A-frame after the haphazardly restored Smithsonian Dora, but browsing some pics I see that one doesn't seem to have any gunsight at all, so it's an interesting question indeed :). i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent90 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The Revi-16 is already used on the Kurfurst, so using another gun sight (that is still historically accurate) makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) It doesn't really make sense, allow me to demonstrate: EDs goal is to represent the real aircraft. The Revi 16B was the default Revi for the D9 but we have the EZ 42 which is still historical accurate though, but it is an exception. Now take a look at EDs answer to people requesting an exception (gun convergence). Everytime when a new gun convergence thread came up, they said roughly this: It is historical accurate, but it is an exception so we won't give you a new gun convergence. So it makes sense to you that we have an exception in a plane (just because another one has it already) but then we won't get an exception for multiple other planes even though it was historical accurate? That doesn't make sense for me. Not even mentioning that the 190 was here before the 109. Edited August 12, 2017 by razo+r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 would be awesome to choose a different gunsight in the editor.. but i must say i like the EZ 42 way more and thus it isnt historically incorrect im happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Anything from the developers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microvax Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 german uber tech at its finest. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Perhaps it was down to available information that forced their hand? The Dora *did* use the EZ-42, even if it wasn't common, so it's not historically inaccurate. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel4y Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I guess they did it initially because the P-51 also has a gyro sight modeled. Fact is, it was used operationally in Doras starting 02/45, but only in small numbers of around 30 aircraft total. I am not a fan of it though, I always lock it and would prefer a Revi 16 tbh. Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 would be awesome to choose a different gunsight in the editor.. but i must say i like the EZ 42 way more and thus it isnt historically incorrect im happy with it. Agreed. however i prefer the 16b for shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 bump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven190 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I too am in favor of the Revi 16B gun sight. I prefer it in this plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 Still waiting for an answer ED... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 i also never use the gyro on the EZ 42... but i like the fine cross way more. the only thing that would make sence at this point is adding the 16 B for players to choose. but i think there more pressing issues with the dora, but still official statements are always very welcome. peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 come on ED... this is disappointing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predattak Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) With the risk of being Boomed and Zoomed to death by some people from this thread i must say that i really like the EZ-42. It's really good against bombers if you adjust for your altitude in the gunsight adjustment unit you get spot on shots from 800 - 900m. Dogfighting players with it , no problem, if you know what you are doing it's no problem plus you have the option of gyroscopes, i know some of players hate them but also some players never used them and never bothered to learn the system well enough. As for historically accurate, it's there you can't deny it so (in my opinion) it's really OK, that argument is invalid. BUT i think that if players want the Revi-16B it should be available (maybe in the same manner like adding or removing the gunsight on the L-39 you could have 2 options Revi or EZ) after the rest of the bugs in Dora are fixed and i think that it will be available eventually if enough people want it. Edited August 31, 2017 by predattak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 Answer from Sithspawn: I believe it was based on data they had available and SME knowledge that was available to them. Its possible too that it was set by RRG as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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