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Old 04-14-2019, 08:40 AM   #41
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Old 04-14-2019, 03:04 PM   #42
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Wait, so first you say 250 is too slow, but now it’s the “sweet spot”?


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The difference between 250kn ground speed and 250kn IAS if the tanker is up at 15K.
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Old 04-14-2019, 06:32 PM   #43
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It took me a while to get it right with the S3 - basically that was all I did in DCS until I got it the first time (as seen here). And continued practice has definitely made me better.

Honestly, since the S3 is so slow, I think having your wings swept as far forward as possible without engaging auto sweep is worth the “cheat,” but maybe that’s just me.

Learning with the S3 made the KC-135 and KC-130 so much easier xD
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:49 PM   #44
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It does matter in the Mission Editor, as that is GS. Set the tanker to 250 knots in the ME and you are gonna be in trouble. Generally 336 in the ME = 250 IAS @ 15,000'.

225-ish KIAS for the S3 is fine, but a little on the slow side, while tanking at 200KIAS is a PITA. Generally with the KC-130 250 IAS is the sweet sopt.
I meant that GS doesn’t matter if we’re talking real flying and that’s what I was referring to.
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:20 AM   #45
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The difference between 250kn ground speed and 250kn IAS if the tanker is up at 15K.

I know the difference between IAS and Ground Speed. Hence, when you set it at 250 ground speed it flies at 166.


Besides, the guy was saying absolute opposite, and I don't think he paid attention to anything i've said in this thread since I spoke specifically about S3 refuelling. And he made a mission with a KC-130.
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:53 AM   #46
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:34 AM   #47
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The hardest thing about refueling on an S3 is the fact that once you made contact, they're immediately out of fuel and have to eject
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Old 04-15-2019, 04:08 AM   #48
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Sounds like somebody didn’t calibrate their throttle curves to the Tomcats fuel flow. Look at the fuel flow tape. If it spikes up 3000 lbs before settling when you’ve only moved the throttle a few milimeters, then you are going to have problems......in landing and especially refueling.

It takes negative curves to tame the fuel flow in the throttles mid range.
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Old 04-15-2019, 04:34 AM   #49
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Set throttles up as Slider axes with User Curves. Negative and positive curvature collapse or expand both ends, when what you need is to expand the center- thereby increasing resolution, and therefore control, and minimize the loss of throw on the bottom end. Linear axis settings easily lose 25% of usable range just past idle given the "flat" power curve of turbines in that region.

Get rid of the symmetry and increase the usable range. Stuck hand syndrome and power over/undershoots go away.

As for TIR, add a dead zone, a precise mode command on your controller, as well as a pause. Put your sight line where you want it, freeze it by keeping your head reasonably still, or using pause to keep it locked.

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Old 04-15-2019, 11:34 AM   #50
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Yep, forgot to mention, set throttles as slider.
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