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Old 07-04-2019, 10:24 PM   #1
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Default request to add bomber B-52H

can you built plane bomber B-52H with the six crew cockpit


AGM-158 JASSM =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-15....28JASSM-ER.29


ADM-160 MALD =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-160_MALD


AGM-69 SRAM =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-69_SRAM


AGM-109H/L Tomahawk =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)


AGM-129 ACM =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-129_ACM


AGM-137 TSSAM =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-137_TSSAM


AGM-86 ALCM =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-86_ALCM


JDAM =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_...ttack_Munition


AGM-28 Hound Dog =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-28_Hound_Dog


ADM-20 Quail =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-20_Quail


AGM-154 =https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-15...tandoff_Weapon


AGM-142 have nap =https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM%E2%80%93142_Have_Nap


BACKGROUND
The Boeing B-52 Stratofortress is an American long-range, subsonic, jet-powered strategic bomber. The B-52 was designed and built by Boeing, which has continued to provide support and upgrades. It has been operated by the United States Air Force (USAF) since the 1950s. The bomber is capable of carrying up to 70,000 pounds (32,000 kg) of weapons, and has a typical combat range of more than 8,800 miles (14,080 km) without aerial refueling.

Beginning with the successful contract bid in June 1946, the B-52 design evolved from a straight wing aircraft powered by six turboprop engines to the final prototype YB-52 with eight turbojet engines and swept wings. The B-52 took its maiden flight in April 1952. Built to carry nuclear weapons for Cold War-era deterrence missions, the B-52 Stratofortress replaced the Convair B-36. A veteran of several wars, the B-52 has dropped only conventional munitions in combat. The B-52's official name Stratofortress is rarely used; informally, the aircraft has become commonly referred to as the BUFF (Big Ugly Fat F*cker).

The B-52 has been in active service with the USAF since 1955. As of December 2015, 58 were in active service with 18 in reserve. The bombers flew under the Strategic Air Command (SAC) until it was disestablished in 1992 and its aircraft absorbed into the Air Combat Command (ACC); in 2010 all B-52 Stratofortresses were transferred from the ACC to the newly created Air Force Global Strike Command (AFGSC). Superior performance at high subsonic speeds and relatively low operating costs have kept the B-52 in service despite the advent of later, more advanced aircraft, including the canceled Mach 3 B-70 Valkyrie, the variable-geometry B-1 Lancer, and the stealth B-2 Spirit. The B-52 completed sixty years of continuous service with its original operator in 2015. After being upgraded between 2013 and 2015, it is expected to serve into the 2040s. (Information via Wikipedia, Link below)

B-52 on Wikipedia
B-52 on Boeing's Website
B-52 on FAS.org

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

B-52 Technical Specifications

* Primary Function: Heavy bomber
* Power Plant: 8 Pratt & Whitney engines TF33-P-3/103 turbofan
* Thrust: Each engine up to 17,000 lbs
* Wingspan: 185 ft (56.4 m)
* Length: 159 ft, 4 in (48.5 m)
* Height: 40 ft, 8 in (12.4 m)
* Weight: Approximately 185,000 lbs (83,250 kg)
* Max Takeoff Weight: 488,000 lbs (219,600 kg)
* Fuel Capacity: 312,197 lbs
* Payload: 70,000 lbs (31,500 kg)
* Speed: 650 mph (Mach 0.86)
* Range: 8,800 mi (7,652 nautical miles)
* Ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,150 m)
* Crew: 5 (aircraft commander, pilot, radar navigator, navigator and electronic warfare officer
* Initial operating capability: May 1961 (Current ‘H’ Model)
* Armament: Approximately 70,000 lbs (31,500 kg) mixed ordnance -- bombs, smart weapons, mines and missiles. Modified to carry air-launched cruise missiles and Miniature Air Launched Decoy.


PHOTOS


pods


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper..._Targeting_Pod
http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capab...s/default.aspx


http://www.airrecognition.com/images...rawing_001.jpg


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https://pre09.deviantart.net/2a2b/th...bagera3005.png


http://www.worldwide-military.com/Mi.../B-52H_006.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...5b84437166.jpg


http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/976/c...emphisbell.jpg


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._AN1727064.jpg


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lower_deck.jpg


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-99-05767.JPEG


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._GBU30_MER.jpg


https://www.google.de/url?sa=i&rct=j...62079127944445


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...oCKH8dImvwo3eR


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...QmdosdGGtwShyG


https://i.imgur.com/974Iu6a.jpg


http://www.ejectionsite.com/b52pix/fig1.gif




https://www.rikoooo.com/images/jdown...1-57-48-85.jpg


https://www.google.de/url?sa=i&rct=j...62079389630398


VIDEOS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPDR8Qmaopg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw2qPzl1gtM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUIDWTrkO4M


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Old 07-04-2019, 10:37 PM   #2
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I don't see so much prliority on that kind aircrafts when we have so small maps to fly. Maybe in the future when we get world map so we can have airliners etc flying at the altitude and so on cruise hours between detailed maps
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:15 AM   #3
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Welcome to the forums William

There's a special sub forum for these kind of wishes (unless you specifically want Razbam to develop it).

You're not the first one to request for a B-52 module

Personally I wouldn't be interested in 10 boring flight hours towards a target area, just to drop a few bombs.. or worst.. get shot down (the latter one would probably be applicable to me)
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:16 AM   #4
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can you built plane bomber B-52H with the six crew cockpit
yeah its easy for 10 guys for + - 5 years of work. It will be cost + - one million dollars + -
No problem ...
Any next request?
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:55 AM   #5
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Old 07-05-2019, 02:34 PM   #6
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can it help you?
B-52
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/boei...e1dae71d407212
https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models...d-model/989397
https://www.c4dfree.com/b-52h-stratofortress/
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https://www.rikoooo.com/downloads/viewdownload/55/805
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php...pit-to-b-52gh/


I may have asked that in the wrong place?
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:28 PM   #7
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I'm afraid you slightly underestimate the complexity of your request my friend
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:28 PM   #8
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Well I feel sad to break it for you, but there is really low chances it would happen.
This aircraft would require lot of dev time and it don't have a high demand, compared to other big aircraft like a B-1B for example who have more action oriented flight (low altitude) or even a KC-135 which allow for lot of fun/interactions refueling other aircrafts, others like the popular WW2 B-17 which is popular and allow for action as those were escorted (allowing to have better coop/interactions) and were often under attack, and with all the turrets and side guns allow for a lot of actions.
While the carpet bombing aspect seem pleasant, the B-52 will often fly for long route then drop bombs at high altitude and return to the base, there is little to do with it.
Though I agree that if a lot of peoples do rather regular fly of airliners in other sims which last for hours, this is far from unrealistic to get players to fly realistic missions with the B-52.
Also the number of crew stations there is mean a lot of development efforts.

Though the positive side is that the exterior 3D model of the B-52 is quite simple as it don't have many complexes curves like a B-1B for example, and it don't have many surfaces features (though it is still far from sleek) and the cockpit contain a lot of analog systems and gauges so it is less complex than a full glass cockpit and thanks to the 8 engines, many things are identical and would allow for copy/paste.
But it still have a lot of computer system from navigation to targeting, and the battle station would be far from easy to model accurately, it will also require complex AI for multiple stations at once.
Also the cockpit 3D model itself will already require lot of work, and the other crew stations even more.

So if you summarize all that you can guess it don't have lot of chances to happen.

And well, this is great and really nice from you to post links to help, but I think all DCS third party made their own 3D model and prefer to refer from official documentations and blueprint rather than others 3D models so they have accurate and realistic product, also all the exterior 3D model you posted have way too little details for the standard of DCS flyable aircraft, even AI aircraft have much more polygons than that in modern DCS.
The first link for example, the wheels are more square than round, the landing gear itself lack clearly details, even the engine pods are low poly.
The 3D cockpit model you posted look like it have lot of details, but I don't know how it compare to DCS, but it don't have other stations than the cockpit itself (the battle station lack all controls) and the textures would never be acceptable in DCS.
And you should know that the 3D model is not the most complex part of the development of DCS aircraft, it may be long but this isn't the most important part, flight model and avionic are far more important and complex.
Official documentation like the flight manual (which only serve as a base, lot of details are missing from it, additional docs are needed) would be more useful, but don't post it on the ED forum as this is against rule 1.16 which is really serious and enforced, because some data that are freely accessible on Internet may actually contain things the military don't really want to see spread and it make ED it a difficult position.
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Old 07-06-2019, 03:21 PM   #9
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OK, I apologize for the publication of this sensitive information
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Old 07-06-2019, 04:08 PM   #10
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OK, I apologize for the publication of this sensitive information
Don't worry you didn't do anything wrong, there links don't really contain anything sensitive, actually IMHO posting the links of the 3D models who are for other sims is closer to break the rule 1.15 (which forbid talking about other sims in this forum) than your links are to the rule 1.16, but I am not a moderator so its not for me to judge on that.
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