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Old 05-11-2019, 09:31 PM   #1
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Default Editable button layout templates for T-50 Throttles and Grips

Re-posting as I added maps for grips and v1 throttle and grip as well...
EDIT 2019-05-12: New versions of all templates based on feedback from Thomasew - and added area for "Function Description" on hats - like "Sensor Control" so that "FWD", "AFT" on the directions make sense...

I just got my VPC T-50 Throttle version 2 - and I love it When starting all these complex mappings of buttons for different sims / planes I really like to have them on a layout map that I can save and update when I change them. And then print to have on the desktop.

I could not find any templates for the T-50 throttle V2 or the T-50 CM2 Grip. The original ones where in PDF from the manual - and I want to be able to edit the document and then save it... I edited the original VPC PDF:s for v1 with LibreOffice Draw (free open source office solution). The throttle was more "editable" but I realized that I really did a complete refresh of the whole template as there where things with the layout that I did not like...

So for anyone that likes to have a file to save and print with the layouts - here are my templates in .odg format (Open Office Draw). Just download Libre Office and edit away with the "Draw" application.

I did four versions (Throttle V1 and V2, grip original and CM2)

Links below:

Layout map for T-50 Throttle version 2 (clickable hats):

https://sites.google.com/site/mazexx...edirects=0&d=1

Layout map for T-50 Throttle version 1 (non clickable hats):

https://sites.google.com/site/mazexx...edirects=0&d=1

Layout map for T-50 Grip CM2 (clickable hats):

https://sites.google.com/site/mazexx...edirects=0&d=1

Layout map for original T-50 Grip (non clickable hats):

https://sites.google.com/site/mazexx...edirects=0&d=1

You might need the font Bahnschrift that I don't know if it comes with Windows / Libreoffice or similar:

https://www.cufonfonts.com/font/bahnschrift

NOTE: For the Throttle maps the numbers on the maps for the buttons that have names on the actual unit are the ones displayed next to the text field. For the other buttons it is the "Windows name" of the button that is displayed in the small white boxes with red text (not the Virpil physical ID of the button). For the sticks all the numbers are the "windows numbers". That is the number that will show up in the DCS config for example as "Button 25" when you click some joystick button - thought that would be good to be able to see if the map is correct...

Screenshots (low res):

Throttle v2:


Throttle v1:


Grip T-50 CM2:


Original T-50 Grip:

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Old 05-12-2019, 07:37 AM   #2
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Hi Mazex,

Thanks for doing these, .. the layouts are great.

Couple of things on the T-50 CM2 Grip:-

The push down button on the middle bottom hat switch should be 11 .. not 17 (you actually have this duplicated as the push down on the outer 2 position switch, .. which is the correct 17).

Also, you've missed Button 27 as the button on the Z-Axis lever.


The T-50 CM Grip (original) is mostly incorrect. It only has 19 buttons, and you've referenced 28, .. as with the CM2.

Here is the correct numbering. I've put the actual number vs your number ..

1=1 ; 2=2 ; 3=4 ; 4=10 ; 5=16 ; 6=18 ; 7=19 ; 8=20 ; 9=6 ; 10=7 ; 11=8 ; 12=9 ; 13=12 ; 14=13 ; 15=14 ; 16=16 ; 17=right thumb single button (missing on yours) ; 18=26 ; 19=button on Z-Axis (missing on yours)

Also, .. the CM1 doesn't have a button on the flip up/flip down trigger .. so, no 28

Hope this helps ..

Thanks again ..


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Old 05-12-2019, 09:22 AM   #3
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Thanks a lot for the feedback Thomasew!

Don't have a version 1 grip so I just took a stab in the dark

Updated the original post with new versions.
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:55 PM   #4
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And then life happens when you start using stuff

My current template for DCS F/A-18. It requires mapping the T4-T5-T6 switches to mode 1-3 (removing the B1-B9 for mode 4-5 to make room for that).

Download links:

Throttle map:
https://sites.google.com/site/mazexx...edirects=0&d=1

Joystick map:
https://sites.google.com/site/mazexx...edirects=0&d=1

Screens (low res)

Throttle:


Stick:



And... If anyone looks at the mappings and can't find the TDC slew I have that on the mini stick of my G13 keyboard above the Throttle. Works great for that... Finally some use for it
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:50 PM   #5
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I did post a configuration guide for the software:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=242447

Following that you will be able to do the configration needed to use my last F18 template.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:50 PM   #6
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@Mazex, any chance of you making one of these for the new MongoosT-50CM Throttle?

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Old 08-25-2019, 09:16 AM   #7
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@Mazex, any chance of you making one of these for the new MongoosT-50CM Throttle?
Do you know if there is a wireframe of the version 3 somehwhere? There was one for the V2 but if there are only color photos of it I would need to do a lot of work to get that into a "clean" wireframe like for the V2.
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Old 08-25-2019, 11:42 AM   #8
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Thanks mazex, great stuff! I'm glad you shared them in such format that everybody can edit them as they like.

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Do you know if there is a wireframe of the version 3 somehwhere? There was one for the V2 but if there are only color photos of it I would need to do a lot of work to get that into a "clean" wireframe like for the V2.

Yeah, good luck with that - I was unable to find one anywhere and like you say, it's a lot of work to do one from a photo.

For myself, I ended up doing it in parts instead.
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:24 AM   #10
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There is also a side image on the VPC website - pretty sure it's the v3, but might not be - from the mounting solutions page iirc:



Been having a go this morning with my trembly, arthritic, spasming fingers and it won't really do the job - but if anyone wants to continue it and see what they can come up with, this is what I've done so far, over recent hours, using a photo and my very limited graphics editing knowledge.

Anyone who wants to try to improve these and get them decently wireframe is welcome - I got the ones I want already (I don't use boxes etc cos I use at least two modifiers = 3 assignments per button/switch = potential mayhem!):



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