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Old 08-24-2019, 06:03 AM   #21
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huh interesting

I have to try this myself....

at least for the navy I think 10 seconds intervals are normal, Jell-O has mentioned it on couple of occasions on his podcast

I've never experienced any severe wake turbulence taking off in MP after people, sadly I don't do much A-10 2-Ships online, but I wanna try it.

Last time I felt any turbulence was when I drifted by accident behind the tanker's engine exhaust
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Old 08-24-2019, 06:48 AM   #22
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Okey, so I setup couple of tests with an AI as a lead.

Did a 10 second interval TO first, into a head wind, didn't feel anything, even caught up to the AI to make sure Wake was On and it was.

Did a second one with 5 seconds interval and oh boy..... oh boy the difference is huge, at 5 seconds I definitely felt it, my seat felt it too, when my butt cheeks grabbed it.

And a third one with no interval in departure, you can barely feel it if any.

Final test was again a 5 second interval now, but with a 30 knots crosswind, didn't feel any wake
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Old 08-24-2019, 09:30 AM   #23
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Maybe it’s different behind AI but behind another human-flown Hog, you should still get a pretty good twist in the wake of the preceding jet with even a 20 second interval (which we fly with live ordinance or if we depart In IMC)

In fact, I was -1 in a second element and it felt like I was experiencing a little rough air even 30 seconds behind -2 of the preceding flight. Again, it was a human flown Hog.

We’ve also experienced turbulence on landing when in two mile trail.
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Are you sure you are not talking about normal turbulence from the weather ? that can be quite severe as well
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Are you sure you are not talking about normal turbulence from the weather ? that can be quite severe as well
I like to set my weather to be somewhat interesting, with natural turbulence at more than 10 (0.1* feet in the ME, whatever that might be in kts or m/s). With that setting, I might get a very little bit of a bumpy ride, but that's completely different from the new wake turbulence effect that tosses aircraft around.

In MP, with a 20 second delay between aircraft on the same runway, wake turbulence currently has a fairly strong and severe effect, where flight safety is not guaranteed. It feels a lot like I imagine light props would experience the wake turbulence of an airliner.
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I like to set my weather to be somewhat interesting, with natural turbulence at more than 10 (0.1* feet in the ME, whatever that might be in kts or m/s). With that setting, I might get a very little bit of a bumpy ride, but that's completely different from the new wake turbulence effect that tosses aircraft around.

In MP, with a 20 second delay between aircraft on the same runway, wake turbulence currently has a fairly strong and severe effect, where flight safety is not guaranteed. It feels a lot like I imagine light props would experience the wake turbulence of an airliner.
My comment was directed towards Emmy, because you can do some crazy settings with he weather one as well, if you crank it up.

A-10 Turbulence TO 10s.trk
A-10 Turbulence TO 5s.trk
A-10 Turbulence TO 0s.trk
A-10 Turbulence TO 5s Strong Crosswind.trk
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My comment was directed towards Emmy, because you can do some crazy settings with he weather one as well, if you crank it up.
Sure. I just think Emmy probably knows the difference between weather and wake turbulence is what I was trying (and failing, obviously) to convey.
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Old 08-24-2019, 06:26 PM   #28
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I’m positive I’m not talking about Wx turbulence.

This was a distinct rolling tendency and not just a “bumpy ride”

The two manifest themselves quite differently.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:47 AM   #29
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I fly on the same server as Emmy, and when I'm -2 in the Hawg with a 10 or 20 second delay I feel the wake turbulence and it is quite a surprise. It is even sportier in the Hornet, on several occasions I thought I was going to have a wing strike.

As an example on my takeoff here in the Hornet:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/467200032?t=22m06s
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