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Old 06-22-2020, 06:30 PM   #561
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Why don't they let you have access to the SDK?
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Old 06-22-2020, 06:48 PM   #562
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Why don't they let you have access to the SDK?
It is not as easy as it seems, you would need to get Boeing’s license to use the A-4 trademarks, then the team of people that developed this aircraft would have to form a software company that can convince Eagle Dynamics that they are worthy of being Third Party Associate .. no, not easy at all.
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Old 06-23-2020, 12:01 AM   #563
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And the dev team does not want that kind of presure..
They have already stated tehy do not want to becoem a 3rd party asociate.

And its quite obviouse that TheMC donneld douglas fee must be astronomical, otehrwise soemone would have picked up the B or C models or even the F or M...
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Old 06-23-2020, 12:47 AM   #564
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... The MC donneld douglas fee must be astronomical

Actually, McDonell-Douglas doesn't exists anymore .. was absorbed by Boeing.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:29 AM   #565
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Why don't they let you have access to the SDK?
I think he's asking why ED doesn't allow SDK access to independent mod makers.

Well, then DCS will be open source (not exactly but pretty much) and there wouldn't be any incentive to be licensed developer or ED if mod developers put out free, fully functional content. And altho open source may sound good, it also brings lots of chaos. Kinda what happened to Falcon 4.0. There were Free Falcon, Falcon BMS, Falcon Allied Force... So many versions of Linux. It'll divide the what already is relatively small community.

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Old 06-23-2020, 08:07 AM   #566
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its kinda funny that some people assume the SDK is some kind of fairy dust that makes everything better in an instant.
It would require rewriting a big chunk of the codebase and probably even require some new coders since its a different language, which are in very very short supply in the modding community to begin with.
Plus, no sane person would want to become 3rd party cause that means getting yelled at by 100 people when one of the lightbulps has the wrong RGB color.
and all the other things mentioned above.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:55 PM   #567
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Actually, McDonell-Douglas doesn't exists anymore .. was absorbed by Boeing.
And That is what I find So Intriguin.. they give ED the license for the F/A-18 but NOT the A-4 Skyhawk?.. weird to say the least...

Someone should aporach Lockhead Martin and ask about the A-4-AR witch is theirs as I understand it, and the avionics si all LM, since its a mini F-16 APG-67 ARG a nerfed 66, and a better engine...
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And That is what I find So Intriguin.. they give ED the license for the F/A-18 but NOT the A-4 Skyhawk?.. weird to say the least...
Why weird? .. licenses are not free, why would ED spend money for an A-4 license if they don't have intentions to develop such a Module?

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Someone should aporach Lockhead Martin and ask about the A-4-AR ...
I have no idea how much $$$ is a license for simulator use, but I doubt that it would be something cheap, unless LM was interested on a professional version of the simulator (doubtful, as the LM development dates from 1994 and Argentina was the only customer).

Anyway, my point is that developing commercial simulator software has a lot of not so obvious costs, and that goes beyond what a users community may want to do .. a free Mod is one thing, a commercial module is quite different.
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Old 06-23-2020, 09:16 PM   #569
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Why weird? .. licenses are not free, why would ED spend money for an A-4 license if they don't have intentions to develop such a Module?



I have no idea how much $$$ is a license for simulator use, but I doubt that it would be something cheap, unless LM was interested on a professional version of the simulator (doubtful, as the LM development dates from 1994 and Argentina was the only customer).

Anyway, my point is that developing commercial simulator software has a lot of not so obvious costs, and that goes beyond what a users community may want to do .. a free Mod is one thing, a commercial module is quite different.
ED Owning a License for the F/A-18C has nothing to do with another independent company wanting a license for an A-4E Skyhawk.

Licensing Fee is not the problem, if the team is not selling the product.
The Last developer that stated the A-4E was dropped due to license fee was because they planned to sell the product.

As for SDK, it is restricted to licensed development teams for a reason.

Beoing still owns all the rights to the A-4 Skyhawk,

The Lockheed Martin A4-AR is essentially an A-4M Upgraded w/ F-16 (Lockheed Martin) Avionics they were contracted to do the Upgrade, that's the only reason the A4-AR is referred to as Lockheed Martin Fighting Hawk.

With the A-4E's Level of Tech, the only thing the lack of SDK Access limits is Radios. Everything else can be done without it.
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Old 06-23-2020, 09:38 PM   #570
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Thanks for the clarification Skatezilla! good to know.

Pitty because no radios mean no AAR.

Hopefully maybe RAZBAM wants to pick up the glove and give us a flyable B/Q and C/P...
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