D4n Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Hi, when pulling stick fully back at high speed, is there an auto g-limit to not rip off wings? What's the limit, and does the flight computer set different g-limits at different stores-configurations (weight)? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renhanxue Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) No, there is nothing in the aircraft that enforces a set G limit. There are limits to the max attainable load factor, but they're mostly related to practical limitations of the control surfaces and the related systems - maximum force the hydraulics are capable of exerting on the elevons, max elevon deflection angle, that sort of thing. That means it varies a lot with airspeed and altitude, of course. See here for an old post of mine with more details. As per the diagram in that post, the theoretical max possible load factor is 12 G (if the wings don't rip off before that), around Mach 0.8 and below ~1000 m MSL. Edited April 11, 2019 by renhanxue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) (if the wings don't rip off before that) That's what I wonder, how Saab engineered the wings, how they are modeled in DCS currently, can they break? Edited April 12, 2019 by DanielNL DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yes they can, but it takes a seriously stupid maneuver (like a 10+g turn at supersonic speeds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 Okay, thanks! :) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosen Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Recently tried Viggen again after a long time away. Noticed that it is impossible to load it more than 8 G. Almost seemed like their was some FBW limit like in the F/A-18 or F-16. Is this a bug or just a shortcut in the development of some kind? i7-7700K @ 4.9 GHz | Gigabyte Aorus Geforce GTX 1080 Ti | 32 GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance @ 2400 MHz (2800 OC) | Asus Strix Z270E Gaming | Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD 1 TB | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD 500 GB | WD NAS Red 2TB SATA3 | Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80i v2 | Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog | Saitek PRO rudder pedals | Valve Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Recently tried Viggen again after a long time away. Noticed that it is impossible to load it more than 8 G. Almost seemed like their was some FBW limit like in the F/A-18 or F-16. Is this a bug or just a shortcut in the development of some kind? Not sure what you're doing, but it's definitely possible to go higher than 8G. Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 The g-meter in the DCS module is currently not able to show more than 8g. Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosen Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 The g-meter in the DCS module is currently not able to show more than 8g. Ok, that makes sense since I actually ripped the wings off and that happens with a load far higher than 8g now that I think about it :music_whistling: (although the meter didn't go further than 8g) i7-7700K @ 4.9 GHz | Gigabyte Aorus Geforce GTX 1080 Ti | 32 GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance @ 2400 MHz (2800 OC) | Asus Strix Z270E Gaming | Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD 1 TB | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD 500 GB | WD NAS Red 2TB SATA3 | Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80i v2 | Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog | Saitek PRO rudder pedals | Valve Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quip Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 It depends on on-set. The airframe is strong enough for 12Gs. Both in real and in the game. But you can rip the wings off at 8G too if you don't manage the on-set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosen Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 It depends on on-set. The airframe is strong enough for 12Gs. Both in real and in the game. But you can rip the wings off at 8G too if you don't manage the on-set [ATTACH]237345[/ATTACH] Ok but is the G-meter in the cockpit still not breaking 8G? i7-7700K @ 4.9 GHz | Gigabyte Aorus Geforce GTX 1080 Ti | 32 GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance @ 2400 MHz (2800 OC) | Asus Strix Z270E Gaming | Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD 1 TB | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD 500 GB | WD NAS Red 2TB SATA3 | Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80i v2 | Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog | Saitek PRO rudder pedals | Valve Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Ok but is the G-meter in the cockpit still not breaking 8G? Yes, the guage still has a limit of 8G, so it won't go above that. Even though the aircraft can go above that. Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilmerby Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 The allowed G was 7 when we firts started to operate the AJ37 in 1973. Later the limit was set to 6. /Stellan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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