Gloom Demon Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) It could very well be, that I'm a slowpoke, but I would like to share my findings: I compared running DCSW on Windows 7 and Windows 10 using FRAPS with identical options. Ryzen 1700@Default Ram 1866 Windows 7 2017-03-23 21:58:10 - DCS Frames: 4980 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 83.000 - Min: 68 - Max: 96 Windows 10 2017-03-27 20:59:25 - DCS Frames: 5373 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 89.550 - Min: 69 - Max: 105 A nice increase, though minimal for Min. Ryzen 1700@3.7 Ram 2666 Windows 7 2017-03-25 13:40:05 - DCS Frames: 5277 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 87.950 - Min: 70 - Max: 107 Windows 10 2017-03-27 21:17:23 - DCS Frames: 5605 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 93.417 - Min: 73 - Max: 117 The same increase, though Min got a bit of a boost. In a nutshell - simply moving from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (which I was forced to do, since my new Samsung SM961 SSD refused to work under Windows 7) resulted in a nice FPS increase in DCSW :-) I'd say keep on going Microsoft! :-) P.S. Windows 7 was running on a Samsung 840 Pro 128Gb SSD, Windows 10 was on a Samsung SM961 256Gb, hopefully this isn't the case? The rest of the hardware is identical. Edited March 27, 2017 by Gloom Demon AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Yes, the differences in the drive will make a fair bit of difference if DCS is busy reading/writing to disk. Also, were they both fresh installs in freshly wiped drives? If not, well... Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Thanks for sharing ... I've lately been tempted to upgrade to Windows 10, since the job reasons that kept me using Windows Server are no longer valid ... ... but just thinking about reinstalling every game and application gets me tired before starting ... my Windows is running just fine and with zero problems, so I think that I will wait for a better reason to upgrade OS ... perhaps when I can bet a bigger SSD drive :) Thanks anyway, at least I now know that I wont be losing gaming performance when I do switch OS on the future. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonist Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 once in w10, there is no going back babe. I7 7700k - Msi Z270 Gaming+ GTX 1070ti 16gb @2400 2x Samsung 850EVO 250/500 - 1x HDD 1TB SAITEK-MAD CATZ CYBORG FLY 5 STICK WIN 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Ram Speeds make the biggest difference. Higher Ram Profile, = Higher Infinity Fabric Speeds = Smoother Thread management across the CCXs Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloom Demon Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 Ram Speeds make the biggest difference. Higher Ram Profile, = Higher Infinity Fabric Speeds = Smoother Thread management across the CCXs CCXs? AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyforDCS Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Also of note. Ryzen is unsupported in Windows 7. Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Thanks for sharing ... I've lately been tempted to upgrade to Windows 10, since the job reasons that kept me using Windows Server are no longer valid ... ... but just thinking about reinstalling every game and application gets me tired before starting ... my Windows is running just fine and with zero problems, so I think that I will wait for a better reason to upgrade OS ... perhaps when I can bet a bigger SSD drive :) Thanks anyway, at least I now know that I wont be losing gaming performance when I do switch OS on the future. I used the upgrade route with minimum fuss and the benefits of W10 where immediately apparent especially using the rift. everything is way faster in regard to operating system and games I play. It is also still free if you have need of one of the assisted technology. Like bad eyesight;) https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 CCXs? AMD Ryzen is Fab'd in Groups of 4, the Ryzen 8 Core CPUs, are 2 CCX's Connected Thru AMD Infinity Fabric, The Infinity Fabric Scales with the Ram Profile (DDR1866, DDR2133,DR2666,DDR3200, DDR3600,DDR3866, DDR4000 etc etc) The Higher the Ram Speed, the Higher the Infinity Fabric Bandwidth between each CCX of the CPU. and as Noted, the Ryzen CPU's are not supported on Windows 7. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I used the upgrade route ... Just don't actually use an upgraded machine. Nuke the machine and then install clean or it will come back to bite you, hard. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 3 months in and all good so far :) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtaliaA1 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 You are running the latest ver. of the Sim.? This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Just don't actually use an upgraded machine. Nuke the machine and then install clean or it will come back to bite you, hard. eehhhhh OK ! I have to admit this install ran on 3 boards, MSI Z170 M9 ACK, Asus Maximus Extreme Z170 and now this Z270 by Asus. All I did was removing the drivers AFTER it booted, reboot again, install the new drivers matching the board and let it be. Win10 is a lot more abstract compared to previous windows and as long as you know what you are doing it's all fine doing this. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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