Landing in DCS 1.5.6

Can anybody give some advice concerning landing the Mig in DCS 1.5.6?

Up to 1.5.5 I flew the plane to the runway and landed at 300 - 340 km/h.

If I try that now I bounce from the runway, loose my gear, or both.

If I try landing slower at 240/250 km/h I am unable to fly the glide slope I am used to and land with too high AoA and crash the plane.

Any pointers on how to land the plane with the new landing performance will be most welcome.

Lots of videos for you to watch: https://www.google.ch/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1ASVA_enCH652CH652&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=dcs+mig+21+landing+tutorial&tbm=vid&*

Unfortunately these are all tutorials from BEFORE DCS 1.5.6.

As I stated I landed comfortably up to (and including) DCS 1.5.5 .

This would suggest that I am not the complete newbe you take me for.

I bought the Mig about the time it became available. I love it, I fly it regularly. I had some issues with activations - all taken care off.

I am a happy LN customer but: I knew how to land the plane, now in DCS 1.5.6 I don't.

Subscribed, curious about this as well. I thought I had the landings down, but they've been a challenge. Love flying this bird!

To get the feeling back, maybe you should try some touch-and-go's with like 400kph and then work your way down, just as a suggestion

But what i can give you as a hint, as normally in the fishbed, try to flare enough so you touch down very gentle and not slam your nose gear into the concrete

Hello,

I had exactly the same landing problem. I have not figured the correct procedure yet, but it helps if you level the plane over the runway from a usual >300km/h speed, do not reduce trust or change AOA, let the plane gently sit down and, this is crucial, just as the main gear touch the runway or even a split second before deploy your chute to avoid bouncing back up.

Hope this helps.

My current technique is very similar to what worked in mid-2015 (landing practice in the MiG-21 was one of my favorite things to do in DCS at that point). The FM changed quite a bit in the interim, but since the 1.5.6 update my old tricks seem to be working well and landings are more challenging again (which I like).

I think the most important part is flaring at the right time, but here is a quick overview of my technique which is working well for me at this point.

I find that a nice approach in the MiG-21 means really staying on top of heading, glideslope, and airspeed. The nose wanders a bit in the approach configuration, but small, consistent corrections keep things on track. Throttle corrections should be small while in the groove, meaning that your speed and descent rate are consistent. I'm keeping N1 RPM in the mid/high-80s at ~50-60% fuel. For a glideslope reference, I place the runway apron at the junction of the lower and lower middle quarter of the combiner glass. AOA is usually between 10-14 units indicated (though I don't glance at it much).

Airspeed is most critical. I generally fly the approach at 320-340 kph (generally closer to 320), but you need to keep a consistent instrument scan to maintain a steady approach speed. If I don't, I end up making too many big corrections and my sink rate can become excessive right before touch down.

Right before touchdown, I flare and pitch the nose up ~10 deg. Timing the flare right is probably the most critical part for a smooth/damage free touchdown. It takes practice, but once you find it gear damage will be rare IMHO. After the flare, I retard the throttle ~2-3 cm (TM Wh throttle) and gently touch the runway. Don't retard the throttle too much or you may lose BLC and sink excessively. Touchdown usually occurs 1-2 seconds later around ~280 kph.

This technique works for me, but practice is probably the most important part. Also, smooth consistent approaches deliver much better touchdowns in my experience and timing the flare is critical. Hope this helps a bit.

-Nick

I just bought the Mig and am also having difficulties with the landings, glad it's not just me!

keep your throttle up to 80-90% and you can land anywhere up to 400kph, even on the current version, though around 320kph it's easier... the reason you break your gear is you're throttling down too much before all 3 wheels are on the ground...

Thanks for the pointers and explanations, back to training it is.

I will let you know how I get on.

Thanks again I have a successful approach now.

Approach at 320KM/h, flaps full, gently lower to the runway - if bounce up don't panic just keep the same settings and do again.

The moment the plane is stabilized with 3 wheels down deploy parachute.

Works every time now.

...try to flare enough so you touch down very gentle and not slam your nose gear into the concrete

This ^^ is KEY. Learn it and you can land on aircraft carriers. Or in the streets ;)

Traffic always gets me in the streets, not the nose gear slammin'. :-) Nice thread.

Landing in real:

I had also the feeling that landings are much more harder to perform since 1.5.6. According to the comments and the video just above, it seems OK.

But still, I wonder if the gear's suspensions are out of tune and stiff like rock. Even during take off, I pull the stick at the last moment because the MiG doesn't like AOA anymore and the main gear bounces violently along the roll axis.