Reddit unhelpfulö - maybe you lot can assist?

I asked r/buildapc about this, but got a very limited response.

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I plan to upgrade System A below, to System B. I want to gather people's opinions on whether or not the "upgrade" will show significant performance improvements MAINLY IN DCS but also in the following tasks, or if I should juststick with System A and OC the CPU a bit.

- Gaming (DCS mostly but also Xplane 11 + some other games like Post Scriptum/ Cities Skylines)

- Audio production (Bitwig DAW)

- Screen capture and video editing (OBS then editing in DaVinci Resolve)

SYSTEM A (the incumbent system):

i5-6600k, ASUS Maxims VIII RoG Mobo (LG1151), GTX 1080Ti, 16GB 2666Ghz RAM, SATA SSDs, win10, FrostFlow 120 watercooler

SYSTEM B (the proposed upgrade):

AMD Ryzen 3700x, Auros-pro X570 Mobo, GTX 180Ti, 32GB 3200Ghz RAM, PCIE 3 NvME SSD, win10, FrostFlow 120 watercooler

I've read that getting the new AMD chips + X570 Mobos to boot has been a problem for some people, but maybe that's just for people trying to OC.

The comment on reddit seemed to suggest also that I should not expect any real uplift in FPS in games, but it's unlikely they know how DCS runs...

So, what do people here think? Worth the upgrade, or just OC the existing system, or wait another 6 months for prices to lower some. ..

According to all available data will be the performance in DCS almost the same as your old assembly.

Oh you'll notice a difference. I noticed a difference when I installed faster RAM, and there was a huge difference going from gen1/gen2 at 3.9-4.0GHz, to gen3 4.4GHz.

Not much point overclocking Ryzen for DCS.

Without knowing for sure how single core performance compares between your present CPU and any of the Ryzens, I'll bet if you can push your current CPU to 4.6GHz+ it should be really close. I take it, that's a big "if"

I would say OC what you have now and see what that gets you. I have a similar system though and I am very CPU bound on MP maps or any mission/map with even a medium amount of units on the screen/map. I'm also interested in finding out if the new AMD CPU's will be better then what I have but I'm still skeptical as I don't think the IPC will be good enough over come the clock deficit to intel.

I'd start with just upgrading the RAM and seeing how you cope with it. DCS is quite RAM hungry.

I'f you're still not happy (particularly in CPU heavy X plane), then you may want to upgrade.

If I was you I would consider buying 32G of the fastest RAM I could afford

If I was you I would consider buying 32G of the fastest RAM I could afford

In already have 3000 speed RAM in the old machine, but the i5 wont natively use the extra Ghz so I have to run an XMP profile or similar to get it "working". This, for some reason, results in failed boot-processes about a quarter of the time.

I would say OC what you have now and see what that gets you.

Despite reading up loads, and using only very light OC (x40) any attempt to OC seems to result in boot instability for me. Despite having a widely recognised "easy to OC" CPU and a mobo which is suppsoed to be designed for this purpose.

This was one of the main reasons I went for the 6600k a couple of years ago, but I've never been able to get a stable OC, even a mild one.

Are you increasing clock speed and voltage in the bios or are you using software in windows? Could be you just got a bad deal in the silicon lottery.

You should be able to safely overvolt to 1.35v on your cpu easily (especially with water cooling). Just monitor your temps while under load, you don't want to exceed 90C.

Are you increasing clock speed and voltage in the bios or are you using software in windows? Could be you just got a bad deal in the silicon lottery.

You should be able to safely overvolt to 1.35v on your cpu easily (especially with water cooling). Just monitor your temps while under load, you don't want to exceed 90C.

I'm currently using a pre-set OC option from the bios itself. . . when it boots, the ROG bios spash screen claims it is using a "22% overcocking".. I assume the bios knows what it is doing here. Despite this, I get a boot faiolure about 1:4 boots. The fans spool up and then just sit at max-rate. The PC does not fully boot (I'm not sure what error the Mobo is reporting, #ve not looked at the on-mobo display).

CPU-Z identifies the CPU running at up to 4200Ghz at times (boosting up and down it seems) so some kind of OC is definitely going on...

In DCS I get frames bwtween 60 and 90 in 1440p, even with OBS running. So that's quite sharp. My GFX settigns are generally around the 75% of maximum.

In my experience most bios pre-sets are garbage. Unfortunately you have to tinker if you want to get good results. It's intimidating at first but once you deep your feet in it's not that hard. Try googling your motherboard along with overclocking and typically you can find some guidelines on how to do it.

In my experience most bios pre-sets are garbage. Unfortunately you have to tinker if you want to get good results. It's intimidating at first but once you deep your feet in it's not that hard. Try googling your motherboard along with overclocking and typically you can find some guidelines on how to do it.

OK, might give it a shot again.

Oh you'll notice a difference. I noticed a difference when I installed faster RAM, and there was a huge difference going from gen1/gen2 at 3.9-4.0GHz, to gen3 4.4GHz.

 

Not much point overclocking Ryzen for DCS.

 

Without knowing for sure how single core performance compares between your present CPU and any of the Ryzens, I'll bet if you can push your current CPU to 4.6GHz+ it should be really close. I take it, that's a big "if"

1st Gen Ryzen was positioned against the 6th Gen Core series, if that tells you anything.