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Old 10-15-2015, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default Su27 - A complete guide to combat employment and tactics



Had some spare time and decided to make this. Enjoy.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By_...ew?usp=sharing

Edit: in the past few days I've updated the guide a few times with corrections, clarifications, a couple screenshots/diagrams and the radar vs EOS addendum, the link I provided will always go to the most recent version

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Old 10-15-2015, 07:32 PM   #2
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Nice guide! Great for a beginner. Though I disagree about always having to lure the F15C into WVR.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:40 PM   #3
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Thanks for writing and posting that, I can only imagine how much time and effort that took!

The only comment I'd make is that you describe the R-27ER as being sluggish, when it's actually anything but sluggish. It's maximum speed and acceleration values are well above anything the AIM-120 could ever hope to achieve. I've seen an R-27ER top out at over 4,200 Km/h at the point at which the sustain motor burned out. I agree that it has poor terminal performance against targets pulling a lot of G's but it's speed and acceleration are it's main and huge advantages.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:44 PM   #4
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Great help, thanks for posting.

Question; does the ASC disconnect automatically reconnect or I have to hit S again?

Thanks again!

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Great help, thanks for posting.

Question; does the ASC disconnect automatically reconnect or I have to hit S again?

Thanks again!

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You have to hit S again to manually re-enable it. The system doesn't automatically re-enable.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:51 PM   #6
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Thanks for writing and posting that, I can only imagine how much time and effort that took!

The only comment I'd make is that you describe the R-27ER as being sluggish, when it's actually anything but sluggish. It's maximum speed and acceleration values are well above anything the AIM-120 could ever hope to achieve. I've seen an R-27ER top out at over 4,200 Km/h at the point at which the sustain motor burned out. I agree that it has poor terminal performance against targets pulling a lot of G's but it's speed and acceleration are it's main and huge advantages.
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Nice guide! Great for a beginner. Though I disagree about always having to lure the F15C into WVR.
I have tried other tactics and none seem to work nearly as well. I usually get 3-4 kills per sortie in 104th. Ambushing is the one tactic that is harder to predict.
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Old 10-15-2015, 09:41 PM   #7
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Great guide, plenty there for new guys to get their teeth into. 1v1 against an F-15 your best chance is making that Flanker live up to its name because there is nothing worse than getting actives in the face, conceal and flank then give that 15 pilot a surprise wedgie face plant for maximum points.
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:10 PM   #8
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Thanks for the guide. I haven't flown the 27 in a while. Maybe I'll give your guide/27 a spin tonight.
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:15 PM   #9
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Thank you, from my point of view, the first clear and comprehensive manual on the subject
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