gholi Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Supmua please take a look to the following link and tell me is that the one yousuggest https://www.amazon.fr/Bluetooth-Dongle-Adaptateur-Windows-Vista/dp/B01JYW58HE/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=Bluetooth+CSR+4.0+Dongle+USB+Adapter+Plug+and+Play+For+For+Windows+10+%2F+8.1&qid=1568237071&s=computers&sr=1-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Real simulator F-16 Grip Thanks, Dude, of course, I will definitely send you pics of them, you were the only one to whom I told it. Do you know how long does it take to receive them, I 've sent a mail to the girl who replied me about the upgrade for FSSB R3, I received from PayPal the payment proof but no confirmation from Realsimulator, I guess nobody was at the office when I bought them I'm in Paris France, and what is the BLE 4.0 Bluetooth? why? They ship UPS 1-day from Spain and due to custom clearance it took roughly a week to get to me (USA). In your case it should take less time (if they have it in stock). The stick can use Bluetooth to communicate with PC instead of wired connection. However, early testing showed that several people have trouble maintaining BT connection resulting in intermittent unresponsiveness or complete loss of connection during gameplay since BT signal strength depends on several factors (distance, WiFi interference, physical interference, type of USB port, type of Bluetooth device you have, etc.). The next firmware update will allow full functionality of the stick via wired connection. I’ve been testing this with BT off and so far so good. With the next firmware update you will not need BT at all if you have FSSB R3L base, unless you really insist. Edited September 12, 2019 by Supmua PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Real simulator F-16 Grip Supmua please take a look to the following link and tell me is that the one yousuggest https://www.amazon.fr/Bluetooth-Dongle-Adaptateur-Windows-Vista/dp/B01JYW58HE/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=Bluetooth+CSR+4.0+Dongle+USB+Adapter+Plug+and+Play+For+For+Windows+10+%2F+8.1&qid=1568237071&s=computers&sr=1-4 Yes that is the only one that works reliably for me. Check and see if your motherboard BT works first though since you may not need a dongle, but from discussions in Realsim forum just about everybody had to use dongle. BT also works best via USB 2.0 port which has better insulation against interference compared to USB 3.0 or 3.1, and also better if the port is on the front or the side of the PC to minimize interference. However, that dongle works fine for me via USB 3.0 even via USB hub. Keep in mind that what works for me may not work for you since we have different setup at home including different factors that could affect BT signal. Edited September 12, 2019 by Supmua PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gholi Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Supuma, Thanks for the info and I am going to build waiting to receive from PARVUM a case double system an I9 900k on ASUS XI EXTREME Once I receive we could get in touch by Teamviewer, I have 5 PC dedicated to DCS but I bought a water-cooling case Spectre 2.0 from Singularity and waiting soon for a Parvum Case, I will send you pics if you want I have sent them 2 emails, they didn't confirm my order yet, I don't recall whether they did or not the last time when I purchased the FSSB R3. I guess they did Is it, normal bro? not to confirm my orders? I paid them €1174,50 EUR with the VAT in bloody Europe. As you work with them if I provide you on PM necessary information, could you check if, let say they won't reply until Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I paid them €1174,50 EUR with the VAT in bloody Europe. That's what's holding me off. If it was below 1k EUR I'd have one already. Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gholi Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 F16 Side Grip Right Hand450,00 EUR Item #F16SGRH Force Sensor Stick R3 Lighting450,00 EUR Item #FSSB R3L Amount900,00 EUR Shipping85,50 EUR Tax189,00 EUR Total1.174,50 EUR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gholi Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Shall I cancel it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gholi Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 they have just sent me confirmation, saying, they will give me tracking N° as soon as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I don’t work for them. I’m just beta testing their software since they wanted me to help. I buy from them like everyone else. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gholi Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I don’t work for them. I’m just beta testing their software since they wanted me to help. I buy from them like everyone else. Ok, you have already helped me a lot nevermind, just help me once I received them to install and configure them correctly as been told People don't know about VAT because somebody else 's mentioned he has paid below 1k just don't care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 whats the difference to the warthog? seems to be just more expencive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 whats the difference to the warthog? seems to be just more expencive 36 physical input switches (most are 5-way buttons) 512 DX inputs (8 layers of 64 DX inputs) Bluetooth as well as wired connection High density resin material, lighter than metal Forwarded angle grip similar to real life F-16 grip X, Y, Z axis inputs (Pitch, Roll, Yaw) via wireless connection LED indicators on the stick for visual feedback (also audio if you use it with FSSB R3) Configurations saved directly into hardware rather than having software running in background PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gholi Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 LOL OK, grats! Let me know if you need any help. I'm helping them test the beta apps but I probably can't say much about it here, but can definitely help you with setup and how to make the most out of this combo. If you have trouble with poor bluetooth connection, get the bluetooth 4.0 dongle called CSR. Of all the 5 dongles I tested this one is the best in terms of connection reliability with the F-16SGRH stick. I have just received the16SGRH stick the FSSB R3 Lightning, but not the dongle yet, because of the delay of Amazon. Fr and I'm not sure whether here we have a poor Bluetooth Connection or not, how can I found it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Check the FAQ on the forum, there should be a new user guide that walks you through the entire set up. Most motherboards these days have built-in BT but they might not work 100% with the F-16SGRH (none of mine did). PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gholi Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) Check the FAQ on the forum, there should be a new user guide that walks you through the entire set up. Most motherboards these days have built-in BT but they might not work 100% with the F-16SGRH (none of mine did). Could you help me to set it up through Teamviewer? once you 're ready? to install it correctly the dongle is ordered keep you posted once arrived Edited September 16, 2019 by gholi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Could you help me to set it up through Teamviewer? once you 're ready? to install it correctly the dongle is ordered keep you posted once arrived[ATTACH]217318[/ATTACH] Yeah send me a PM. I'm usually home after 6PM Eastern Time (USA) but not all the time. Also see if you can get in on beta-testing, just email Dragon and ask to be included, this way we can communicate and exchange info quicker. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I ordered the FSSB3 Lightning today and would have ordered the F16GSRH but I've received no response from them about availability. It says out of stock but also says new orders by purchase order? Does that mean they build to order? The forum was no help either. Do you guys have an idea of availability? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I ordered the FSSB3 Lightning today and would have ordered the F16GSRH but I've received no response from them about availability. It says out of stock but also says new orders by purchase order? Does that mean they build to order? The forum was no help either. Do you guys have an idea of availability? They have sold out of initial stock but there should be more soon and orders are first come first serve, the serial number of the grip is actually part of your name. People are trying to encourage them to make home version of the F-16 throttle. If there is anyone that can do it right it would be them. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) They have sold out of initial stock but there should be more soon and orders are first come first serve, the serial number of the grip is actually part of your name. People are trying to encourage them to make home version of the F-16 throttle. If there is anyone that can do it right it would be them. Well.... shit. I guess I'll place an order lol. Question. How well does the Warthog hold up when used with the FSSB's? I'm worried it's going to break. Luckily I have two but I'd rather have the other as a backup and use it for center stick flying. I know several people who would by a TQS regardless of price. Me being one of them. I have 1 fully functioning TQS with TUSBA and two others for parts because they don't last. I think I've had 6 cougars since 2001. Edited September 18, 2019 by Wicked.- [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The neck at the stick base is the weak point and depending on what you poundage have the base set at and how aggressively you haul on the stick you can snap it. Debolestis makes replacement necks, which are not cheap but way stronger and better made Depending also on where you mount the stick you could opt for one of the angled necks, he offers them in 2 or 3 different flavours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I have had no issues with my Warthog grip on the FSSB R3L. Just treat it as a potentially fragile electronic device rather than a metal rod and you should be ok. If you get the F-16SGRH (side grip right hand), then the neck issue becomes irrelevant. It is also a perfect match for VR pilots since it provides crazy amount of bindable buttons. The new voice overlay is also quite neat providing audio feedback when you switch memory slots as there is no good way to see visual feedback on the stick while in VR. It is forward thinking like this that makes me appreciate what Realsim does. They provide high quality authentic flightsim gear but at the same time take an extra step to increase QOL and user experiences. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) I purchased the FSSB3 Lightning with the angle adapter. I bought the F-16 locking collar and DMS switch from Shapeways. I'll see how those work out and whether or not I get the F16GSRH before getting the neck piece. Edited September 18, 2019 by Wicked.- [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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