DCS World 2.0 and New Maps Discussion Thread

Has there been any word on how EDGE will effect the Georgia map, performance wise?

Has there been any word on how EDGE will effect the Georgia map, performance wise?

We have no idea that the renderer will even work with the map. In theory it should work with the map so we should probably see improvements with regards to FPS, but we wont be getting any of the eyecandy since the art assets would remain the same. Please take note that Im speculating from what 'little' information has been released. Since this is ED we are talking about everything is subject to change.

We have no idea that the renderer will even work with the map. In theory it should work with the map so we should probably see improvements with regards to FPS, but we wont be getting any of the eyecandy since the art assets would remain the same. Please take note that Im speculating from what 'little' information has been released. Since this is ED we are talking about everything is subject to change.

So there is a chance it won't work with it? What happens if it doesn't work?

Well, it probably will work, it must work, otherwise non Nevada buyers will be without a map to play on.

Let's just hope we get the same or better FPS in Georgia with it.

Thanks for the answer.

We have no idea that the renderer will even work with the map. In theory it should work with the map so we should probably see improvements with regards to FPS, but we wont be getting any of the eyecandy since the art assets would remain the same. Please take note that Im speculating from what 'little' information has been released. Since this is ED we are talking about everything is subject to change.

since ED is adapting everythings on one level (eg: FC3 to DCS 1.2.6 Level) we can pretty much be sure that they will put the old map into EDGE as well...everythings else would be senseless.

As far as I know, the old map will be rendered with the old engine and only Nevada will use the new image renderer.

since ED is adapting everythings on one level (eg: FC3 to DCS 1.2.6 Level) we can pretty much be sure that they will put the old map into EDGE as well...everythings else would be senseless.

As far as I know, the old map will be rendered with the old engine and only Nevada will use the new image renderer.

It has been stated by Matt, at least once, that the current map would have to be redone from scratch to put it into EDGE. For that reason, it is not planned to redo the old map in EDGE.

But they will have to do it - are there any other such large maps? Caucasus is classic.

If they leave it as is, it would be very weird - it would mean EDGE (better graphic) is reserved only for small, tiny map. It'd mean in practice for most gamers nothing changed at all, because they won't play all the time Nevada only.

But they will have to do it -

I did not hunt for the quote, but it would appear that ED does not agree with you.

Originally Posted by LordLobs View Post

I hope we get some new effects that affect gameplay such as raindrops on the canopy and fogging, so we can make use of those canopy defog and windscreen wiper switches

I hope we get some old effects back! :o) Like appropriate CBU effects, etc.

the problem is not in effects

the problem is not in hardwares

the problems in this old engine obsolete for current technology

the engine has to be updated

My criticism is constructive criticism, for y'all to improve the product

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I hope we get some new effects that affect gameplay such as raindrops on the canopy and fogging, so we can make use of those canopy defog and windscreen wiper switches :D

Explosions, smoke, flares, dust, contrails, snow, rain, and heat blur all need updating. Maybe we'll hear more when it's finally integrated into the sim?

I'd actually be interested to know what new effects and capabilities we can expect from EDGE in DCS. It's the only aspect Matt hasn't spoken about. We've seen new clouds but other than that not much else on the particle effects side of things.

 

Explosions, smoke, flares, dust, contrails, snow, rain, and heat blur all need updating. Maybe we'll hear more when it's finally integrated into the sim?

I really am looking forward to these updates

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I did not hunt for the quote, but it would appear that ED does not agree with you.

There wasn't to be FC3, wasn't to be upgraded cockpit for 25T and more :)

It seems there are, so I guess it will be too.

There wasn't to be FC3, wasn't to be upgraded cockpit for 25T and more :)

 

It seems there are, so I guess it will be too.

Well, 'everything is subject to change' but if you consider that the map will have to be redone completely then it makes more sense to create a new 'theater of operations' than to spend the same amount of time/money/resources to re-create the one that many here are already bored with.

Well, 'everything is subject to change' but if you consider that the map will have to be redone completely then it makes more sense to create a new 'theater of operations' than to spend the same amount of time/money/resources to re-create the one that many here are already bored with.

Renderer != Art Assets

In theory old art assets could be (re)used and integrated into a new renderer. This would result in minimal work for the 3d artists. It would not result in any significant visual improvements but at least ED's playerbase would not be split in two.

small, tiny map

Really? :)

The scope for the new map was initially A-10C training missions and it lends itself pretty well for Red-Flag-style missions. Don´t forget that this is how it all started.

True, but if you can have better art in the new engine, why would you want to use old stuff? I think to do the old map justice, you would want to build it from scratch.

Are you implying that they should throw Caucasus away and let the NTTR be the only map (just because it looks better)?

My recollection of what was said...

The current map will still work but it will not take advantage of any improvements brought by EDGE.

Are you implying that they should throw Caucasus away and let the NTTR be the only map (just because it looks better)?

This thread gets really frustrating when folks don't read the posts.. It has been stated multiple times that DCS will continue to work using the old map.. It doesn't die or anyhting, it just won't look as good as EDGE...

So we can all continue to use the old map and the graphics it has... And then EDGE will be the FIRST new map with updated graphics and engine..

It has been stated multiple times that DCS will continue to work using the old map.. It doesn't die or anyhting, it just won't look as good as EDGE...

LOL!! Almost like a dog chasing it's tail.

OMFG... come on... the map is going to still be usable in EDGE. WHAT I SAID, was that if you are going to create a new map in the new engine why not create new art assets... seriously... sometimes I wonder...

Calm down please, perhaps you misunderstood the meaning of my post. I know that map is still going to be usable. I just wanted to say, as the reaction to your "why would you want to use old stuff", that "why" is because it's easier to port the assets instead of spending time redoing the current map. Not like that would be impossible, but DCSW needs to have a free map in the meantime. ;)