DCS: Eurofighter Typhoon - Avionics

Yes certainly.

Well unsuck it then!

Yes, SIR!

Boy she is ugly but you don't argue with vapes and burner.

Boy she is ugly

Take that back right now!! :D

Take that back right now!! :D

NEVER! :D I ain't no Euro-canard Euro-tard!

Who you calling ugly?

THAT thing! How does that not look ugly to you? :P (And you can find higher res pics than that now, come on!)

Comical Ali & the Black Knight. Lolz too funny. This thread is becoming derailed maybe we should get back on topic.

So long as we've established that an AI Typhoon should beat an AI F-22 in a dogfight let's get back on topic.;)

I think you should study that history some more, then :)

Vietnam, F-4, dogfight.

does this mean you would not like to see a Euro-Fighter in DCS? If so Why.:huh:

Vietnam, F-4, dogfight.

Isn't that when the USAF thought guns were so last year?.

Vault,

You're incorrectly attributing the quote in your new signature to the USAF, when in fact, it was supposedly said by an individual in the RAF.

This thread is a waste of perfectly good electrons.

The Typhoon is indeed an ugly piece of work. Oh well, at least it can carry more than the Gripen. Also, it can fight better than the Raptor. According to others, it is possible for AMRAAMs and Meteors to receive fire control from AEW&C aircraft and ground stations. Maybe another party will come in here and announce that the EF-2000 got upgraded engines with rocket boosters that allow it to fight in space :music_whistling:.

Maybe this is where Tom Clancy gets the facts for his books.

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Don't forget drive space.

 

(ducks :D)

According to some others, it is possible for AMRAAMs and Meteors to recieve fire control from AEW&C aircraft and ground stations.

Well that part at least is true, sort of. But people often misunderstand how such capabilities actually work (and Typhoon is far from alone in having such capabilities).

As for the rest, it's no different to the various rumours surrounding the Raptor or the F-35 or any gen 4.5/5 aircraft. Those amongst us who have actually first hand knowledge of the aircraft /systems/weapons stay mostly quiet for obvious reasons, while those who heard something from a mate who heard it from some bloke in the pub (or worse read it on Wikipedia) argue about things on the internet. It's the same on just about every forum across the internet and will never change.

Well technically I did hear it from guys in the pub but the guys were RAF. They use pubs too.

The Typhoon is indeed an ugly piece of work.

Shame that because the primary design objective was to make it look pretty.

...and order is restored! :D

What does EF do that this doesn't, really?? It is very capable, and half the price. I'm sure the latest toys can be put into this thing.

Best regards,

Tango.

Well technically I did hear it from guys in the pub but the guys were RAF. They use pubs too..

Lies, we don't drink at all, the entire RAF is tee total.

Yes, especially true of the ground crew.

Tango:

Yes, very nice, I did one for FC2. I think it's the best looking and well unfortunately not as capable as the EF. Mighty fine aircraft all the same.

Guys, return on-topic and keep rule 1.2 in mind.

Some offending posts removed.

...and order is restored! :D

 

What does EF do that this doesn't, really?? It is very capable, and half the price. I'm sure the latest toys can be put into this thing.

Well the answer is that the Typhoon does everything a little better except land on carriers but that's because the F-35 is coming.

Please keep the thread on topic guys and less Euro's against the Americans please.

Everyone has a right to their opinion.

And it's Dale Brown, not Clancy ;)

Hmm maybe the Megafortress should be our next project.

Or DreamStar :D

Lies, we don't drink at all, the entire RAF is tee total.

Bunch of wowsers then?:D

Errr.... No. First off, this alleged exercise victory was quite specifically listed as a "dogfight". Not sure how many dogfights are fought BVR these days. I always thought the two terms were mutually exclusive. Maybe that's just me.

 

I agree that speed, ceiling, radar output, radar cross-section, ECM, ECCM, and missile capability are more important than raw maneuverability.

 

I disagree that the Typhoon is superior to the F-15 in all of these (or even most). The F-15 is a mach 2.5 fighter. The Typhoon is a mach 2 fighter.

 

Currently, BOTH fighters are armed with AIM-120. You can't make comparisons with weapons that don't exist/ aren't fielded yet (at least, unless you want me to start claiming US Boeing ABLs are going to fly around melting all your fighters from the sky with death rays). They aren't pertinent.

 

I'm pretty sure the radome on the Eagle is larger than the Typhoon, and the available electrical power is superior, allowing for equal (or superior) radar. I don't know enough details to compare their detection ranges without doing some serious research first, but I'd be inclined to guess that the Eagle equals or surpasses the Typhoon in detection range (almost certainly, with the AESA-equipped Golden Eagles which now comprise a significant portion of the US active-duty F-15C fleet).

 

The Eurofighter consortium's claims of stealth are frankly laughable. They could compare Typhoon to the F/A-18E, regarding RCS... they could even claim to significantly better the Superhornet, and I'd be willing to believe them. But when they claim superior RCS to the F-22 in ANY aspect, I call BS. ANY aircraft with external weapons stowage is going to lose to the F-22 and F-35 in RCS, from all aspects, by a lot. An AIM-9 has a larger RCS than an entire F-22.

 

So in a long-range fight, it's probably closer to parity than either side having significant advantages. In a gunzo dogfight, Typhoon will probably win. In a dogfight with modern heaters, well, the victor of that one is more likely to be determined by tactics entering the fight than the capabilities of the aircraft, because it'll probably be over at the merge, with no follow-on turning fight involved.

 

Now, if it was 2x EFA plus 6x F-18 versus 8x F-15, then I can believe the fight going either way. I can DEFINITELY belive the Eagles losing if they were playing the part of the aggressor/ strike package/ OPFOR (where their tactics, SA, and capabilities are limited to emulate plausible adversary nation's aircraft).

This ... too much EF hype

Also i don’t consider mach 1.2 super cruise, a clean F-16N can do that

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What does EF do that this doesn't, really?? It is very capable, and half the price. I'm sure the latest toys can be put into this thing.

 

 

Best regards,

Tango.

Also the Rafale is one of the best looking aircraft around...