Oceandar Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 https://theaviationgeekclub.com/during-operation-desert-storm-iraf-mig-25s-claimed-to-have-shot-down-a-usaf-f-15c-and-a-bedouin-smuggler-confirmed-the-kill/ Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Very good read, thx for sharing. That was a lot of Sparrows gone garbage, and a lot of misses. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooch Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Interesting. Thanks for sharing! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 You're welcome guys. Thats IrAF claimed for downing an Eagle quite shocking me. I'm also surprised that R-40 despite its semi active still tracking after lost locked if that info was true. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman109 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 The IrAF did shoot down an F18C with an R40 from a Foxbat during ODS. I read the OP article this morning myself, it was excellent. Reminded me of the article about the double shoot down of the Mig25s, and how the F15C pilot shot so many Aim7 (all of them IIRC), that he was thinking he was somehow going to have to try and gun the Mig25 (difficult due to its speed and acceleration), when he finally got it with an Aim9. The Mig25 pilot evaded several Aim7 and at least 2 AIM9 IIRC, as the Sidewinder back then LOVED Russian flares. Systems Virpil T50x2,T50CM2x2,Warbrd x2, VFX/Delta/CM2/Alpha/Tm Hornet sticks, VKB GF3, Tm Warthog(many), Modded Cougar, VKB Pedals/MFG Pedals/Slaw Viper RX+109Cam Pedals/Virpil T50+T50CM Throttle/CH Fightersticks/CH Throttles/CH peds, Index x1, Reverb x1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molnibalage Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The article is a total mess to me. It speaks at one point about F-15C then F-15E and F-15C... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Im quite intrigued about such a parameter for the weapons in DCS actually, that they have a risk of just going dud on you. And when not flying, you could entertain yourself with threads about given coalition bias, hehe. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Yea it would be interesting. We already have the option to include or exclude random failures in flight already so to some extent the structure is already there. You just need to extend the failures to include weapon systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Yea it would be interesting. We already have the option to include or exclude random failures in flight already so to some extent the structure is already there. You just need to extend the failures to include weapon systems. And extend the failures to multiplayer as well, where they are not available at all :( Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFJackBauer Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Thats IrAF claimed for downing an Eagle quite shocking me. Is this sarcasm or serious? If the latter, adversaries makes untruthful claims all the time when engaged in war. Welcome to the real world. I'm also surprised that R-40 despite its semi active still tracking after lost locked if that info was true. Again, cannot ascertain if its sarcasm or not. Nothing in the article indicated that the missile still tracked after the radar lock was dropped. The article is a total mess to me. It speaks at one point about F-15C then F-15E and F-15C... It only mentions the F-15E on two occasions: - To explain how the Iraqis were emboldened after engaging the escorts of a F-15E strike package on al-Qaim - Describing how the Iraqis thought they were being engaged by F-15Es with Mavericks while at the runway, when in fact were the Sparrows hitting the ground. Seems perfectly fine with me and I never got confused by reading the article, although I knew about the facts from other sources. Time to practice some reading comprehension, dudes :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 Is this sarcasm or serious? If the latter, adversaries makes untruthful claims all the time when engaged in war. Welcome to the real world. No its not sarcasm, why do you think it is? I just knew that such claim exist that the Eagle actually does not have a clean record from A2A combat according IrAF from this article. Probably true and probably no.... (shrug) I misunderstand about R40 still tracking after radar lock was dropped, it says it was gone ballistic but still hit left engine of the F-15. Isnt it indicated its still tracking? Or was it just pure luck? Or all of this just IrAF claimed? (again.... Shrug) Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emu Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 The IrAF claimed a daylight A2A shootdown of a Tornado during Desert Storm before they even started flying daylight missions if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I misunderstand about R40 still tracking after radar lock was dropped, it says it was gone ballistic but still hit left engine of the F-15. Isnt it indicated its still tracking? Or was it just pure luck? Or all of this just IrAF claimed? (again.... Shrug) Going ballistic means that the missile lost its steering guidance and is now flying ballistically without steering. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frixon28 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 The IrAF claimed a daylight A2A shootdown of a Tornado during Desert Storm before they even started flying daylight missions if I remember correctly. They also claimed over 80 Tomcats destroyed during the Iran-Iraq War, even though Iran only had 79... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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