Announcing Tu-22M3 Troika by Black Cat Simulations

That's an ugly looking airlift gun! :megalol:

Ah, thank you for the clarification.

 

...Looking at my calendar for a date to commit...weekend of the 17th.

Bye

Phant

Any updates since last Saturday? I'm hoping to see official Tu-22M3 progress. :P

Same here! :)

Workin it, workin it! Sirius, sorry, I owe you a response too!

Brian, you being the expert on the Tu-22M here, do you know if, when and in what numbers the Kh-15 strategic attack and anti-ship versions become operational with the Backfire fleet?

Any update on the Tu-22M3? There was an "update" to come months ago yet there is no videographic evidence, nor' pictures of the plane flying in-game. I am quite worried that the Tu-22M3 is not even existant in the game right now as a mod.

Give them some time...

I think the Black Cat team is busy working on an actual module, instead of say, making loading screens. I would much rather see 2-3 updates a year than daily updates with trivial progress.

I think the Black Cat team is busy working on an actual module, instead of say, making loading screens. I would much rather see 2-3 updates a year than daily updates with trivial progress.

Well, some sort of video has been promised since the beginning of January. And even then, progress has been very vague. For an up and coming payware module dev, earning your potential customer's trust by fulfilling what you give your word on, is a bit important.

Any update on the Tu-22M3? There was an "update" to come months ago yet there is no videographic evidence, nor' pictures of the plane flying in-game. I am quite worried that the Tu-22M3 is not even existant in the game right now as a mod.

How is this a problem ?

For an up and coming payware module dev,

did i miss something?

Makes it hard to trust somebody who promised an update in January which was 3 months ago from now. He also promised the release of this mod for July 2017 but ever since he has been making siednotes about "adding quick details here and there" at a 99% finished mod?

The guy is doing it on his free time, he hasn't sold anything to anyone. I still fail to see the problem.

Remember that in development 10% of the work takes 90% of the time ;).

I don't see the word promise with a quick search : https://forums.eagle.ru/search.php?searchid=17466645

Makes it hard to trust somebody who promised an update in January which was 3 months ago from now. He also promised the release of this mod for July 2017 but ever since he has been making siednotes about "adding quick details here and there" at a 99% finished mod?

Black Cat is not working on a MOD. This is the term for simple or complex MODifications to the game. A MODULE in DCS is a paid, full-featured flyable aircraft. Brian Cooper has stated that they intend to seek a license from ED to develop the Tu-22 as a paid module. As I understand it they are currently working up a technology demonstration to present to ED. They have made it abundantly clear that they expect the development process to take years to complete, as DCS modules usually do. Sirius, I kind of thought you would understand this by now...?

For those who follow these forums, there are plenty of examples of this kind of thinking, but I hope Brian and his team will learn this lesson now: Something as trivial as a missed deadline for an informal status report, for some people constitutes a "broken promise." I think the vast majority of DCS customers are more mature than this but there's no need to subject yourself to the opinions of the vocal minority. Never even guess a date for anything, make every update a surprise!

Good luck, Briana et al! :thumbup:

Makes it hard to trust somebody who promised an update in January which was 3 months ago from now. He also promised the release of this mod for July 2017 but ever since he has been making siednotes about "adding quick details here and there" at a 99% finished mod?

From your "mod" (3 and counting) experience you sure do lack the sense of time and effort required to make a MODULE. If you actually took notice of what was posted in the last coming months he has had issues with getting MATLAB to work over with the DCS API.

Just be patient, he doesn't owe us anything. He can provide updates when and how he pleases since it's technically not a module yet by a developmental log.

dillio and LevelPulse, thanks I now know I'm not the only one who think this way, I would add rep if it was still there.

dillio and LevelPulse, thanks I now know I'm not the only one who think this way, I would add rep if it was still there.

Some guys seem to think they just have to complain enough to speed up development/get features implemented or changed/immediately make developers produce their preferred aircraft.

As Bignewy said, to produce a paid DCS module a contract with ED is required.

So after(!) we see a "Black Cat section" on this forum with an official production statement, development plan and maybe an estimated release date, this is a spare time project of some nice individuals that owe the community (not customers, as we did never even pay a penny, yet) not even an update or anything.

We may kindly ask about a status, or express our urge for a nice picture or video, but there is no obligation for Brian/Black Cat to "give" anything, unless they want to.

I'm just worried that the Tu-22M3 won't come out which I am sure that I am probably wrong on. Check around in the 20's to 35's pages for when he mentioned of it being released in July 2017 as an official developer. I do hope however that I am proven wrong and I see Black Cat Simulations appear in the 3rd party section, hats off!

You're missing the point. They don't owe us anything, and that "July 2017" date wasn't when he was going to release it. Please re-read before you go mis-quote something.

Anything new on the Backfire? Just asking since it's been a little while and I check the mods section all the time hoping to see something new from the Tu-22M3 thread :)

Anything new on the Backfire? Just asking since it's been a little while and I check the mods section all the time hoping to see something new from the Tu-22M3 thread :)

If there was it would be posted by Brian on this thread so no.

iirc, there was going to be a video about this mod a few months ago.

if a video needs too much effort, at least a few pics would be good.

iirc, there was going to be a video about this mod a few months ago.

if a video needs too much effort, at least a few pics would be good.

Yes that is correct, he hoped to show a video of the mod incorporating the systems/EFM (Can't remember the exact details) that he made through matlab but experienced issues.

I think at this point a simple "i am still alive, project is still going" message would be even more welcome than pics or videos. But that's just for me :)

I think at this point a simple "i am still alive, project is still going" message would be even more welcome than pics or videos. But that's just for me :)

Yeah that's all i want, seems like he hasn't logged into the forums for over a month now.

I think at this point a simple "i am still alive, project is still going" message would be even more welcome than pics or videos. But that's just for me :)

Yes, that was pretty much what I was going for too. No obligation for Brian to upload any photos/videos, just knowing this wonderful bird is still being worked on would be nice to know is all.