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Old 02-19-2020, 12:00 PM   #1
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Default DCS Future - F22 & F35

So before you start thinking that this is yet another post about the F22 & F35 let me tell you that I’m aware of ED unwillingness to produce and release modules that it can’t enough and reliable information. The F22 and F35 will remain highly classified for several decades and that makes a full fidelity module of both these birds quite difficult or simply impossible.

That being said and acknowledging the success (commercial) of "modernish" fighters in DCS like the F18 and F16 my question is what lays in the future for DCS in regard of modern fighters? With developers unable to get the necessary information to create modern planes are we fated to see WWII warbirds and cold war stuff for the next maybe 10 or 20 years to come? I'm not saying WWII and cold war planes are bad but I think you get the point.

What’s your take on this ?
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Old 02-19-2020, 12:01 PM   #2
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At least as AI, yes.


Flyable I highly doubt it
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Old 02-19-2020, 12:18 PM   #3
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I feel aircraft like the F14 F16 and F18 are more than sophisticated enough for us mere mortals for many many years to come, in the case of the tomcat it's a unique blend of pure flying mixed with some sophisticated systems and sensors, in some ways far more enjoyable for us, i would perhaps describe it as having the golden age of modernish combat aircraft, if the F35 is as advanced as you read it is, its hyper smart and does a lot of the pilot work load for you.
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Old 02-19-2020, 12:28 PM   #4
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There are plenty of contemporaries of the current fleet of aircraft to keep ED/3rd Party Devs and consumers busy for decades I'd say. Where is the F111, Tornado, Phantom, A6, A7, F105, F104, F100, Hunter, Lightning? etc. etc. So much material out there and so many potentially great modules I don't think we need to worry too much about DCS running out of ideas in the future. That is without even considering PACT/Eastern aircraft, heavies, transports and more helicopters.
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:26 PM   #5
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There no info except that US government says on how this planes goes. None of f22 and/or f35 flew over Russian or Chinese radars as I know, me think autopilot will be similar to F/A-18, but what about weaponry? Can it shot supersonic? What roll rate they have?
There is only theoretical knowledge of performance.
One can get them in arcade games - DCS is about simulation of systems and some flying, not only make a beautiful model.
If ED will start do arcade planes - next we'll see experience bar and loot boxes.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:00 AM   #6
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I support F-22 AI atleast. That could be same time frame as our Hornets and Vipers, with only AIM-9M for heat seekers! Why not B-2 AI. I think those already make sense for 21st century DCS.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:17 AM   #7
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No thanks.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:41 AM   #8
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Once a couple of the flagships are complete I would hope ED would step back from aircraft and spend more time on the world based items. Dynamic campaign, AI for tower, CV's, enemy aircraft, weather, etc. Thats more than enough in my opinion. Look at the work Heat Blur is doing and Razbam, both are excellent developers that can continue to feed us with fighters from the 80's and earlier. To me, that would be more than enough to keep me happy and busy for decades.
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Old 02-21-2020, 08:47 AM   #9
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Yes there are more than enough planes and helios for developers and the fan base to be happy for years to come, there is no question about that.
But imagine this has collecting cars, people in there prime earning years will tend to buy very expensive cars that desired when growing up, nostalgia is a very strong thing.
So new players coming in might not be as excited about flying a planes that they never seen or heard before, and as mention above the likelihood of planes like the F22 ; EF2000 ; F35 etc becoming available to us is zero in the near future.
I like the idea of FC3 or MAC style game, a simpler version, something that would server as first steep into flying sim and hopefully help keep this community growing and strong! After all Ace Combat 7 broke the franchise sales record.
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Old 02-21-2020, 02:45 PM   #10
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Future of dcs I think looks bright. They are very smartly updating their older modules. As hardware improves, they will likely continue to update all of their existing modules to keep them current. When there's no good jets, choppers, or warbirds left to produce they will have a lot of time in refinement, core updates, maps, campaigns, etc etc.

Besides, there's still lots of western non stealth aircraft they can make money off of. As the USN shifts more and more squadrons to the f35 I imagine the super hornet variants become increasingly likely to be modeled.

Further, the future is unknown. New tech could be created that would make this era's stealth tech less usable, so it could be declassified and modeled.
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