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Old 04-21-2017, 11:25 AM   #61
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You guys are being dim. I don't know anybody who learned DCS on the L39 or Hawk or C101. What plane did you learn on? My guess is SU25T or A10C.

I get the feeling a lot of answers here are aimed to 'make it easier' for the woman to learn because the manly A10C is too much machine. Its not. The A10C is piss easy to fly.
Yep I agree, very nice to just fly the A10, remove all the weapons, turn off the MFD's to cancel the distractions and intimidation, then she becomes the perfect slow VFR trainer aircraft. She will have plenty to learn too once she learns the basics, perhaps stick with and go on and do the Training Qualification campaign or the other great campaigns available. You pretty much set her up for years of fun.
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:55 AM   #62
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I get that and you may be correct in that a trainer is better for training (Who'd a thunk eh?).
However

1. The difference between the A10 with the MFDs switched off and the L39 (or F5) is pretty slight.
2. He probably has the A10C already. Most people do.

I'm just pointing this out.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:21 PM   #63
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You guys are being dim. I don't know anybody who learned DCS on the L39 or Hawk or C101. What plane did you learn on? My guess is SU25T or A10C.
In fact I did learn on the L-39? It was a great think to be familiarized with clickable cockpits with an easy one, not full of screens and buttons everywhere.
After mastering the L-39, was able to switch to the Mirage2000 or MiG-21 without any problem.
My gf is also currently learning how to pilot with the L-39, and she finds it very very funny, an simple. She can have fun with smoke pods, and take many screenshot, as the L-39 is a rather beautiful aircraft.


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I get the feeling a lot of answers here are aimed to 'make it easier' for the woman to learn because the manly A10C is too much machine. Its not. The A10C is piss easy to fly.
It has nothing to do about "the manly A-10C. It is just that the A-10 cockpit looks a lot more scary than the L-39 in my opinion; I mean that it makes you feel like "if you want to be a good pilot, you will have to master every single button of that cockpit".
One may have the same feeling about the L-39, the difference is that there are way less buttons and switches in the L-39.

And yes the A-10 is easy to fly, as is the L-39 !
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:28 PM   #64
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I think a trainer is the best way to go as I have a tendency to be HUD focused. Flying the F-5E and the Hawk have helped a ton getting me to focus on other instruments instead. It was and still is a hard habit to break. This way she won't start with that bad habit.
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:47 PM   #65
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You guys are being dim.
No, we're not. The L-39ZA is a trainer, true, but it's a capable COIN aircraft as well. So you can train with it AND use it in anger too, y'know
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_joking on_
Sounds like you are using a highly sophisticated Assault Rifle to club your enemies dead?
_joking off_
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:34 PM   #67
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club your enemies dead?
Yes. I'm putting the "stick" back into "stick & rudder man."

Clubsmanship is a dying art, you know.

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Yes. I'm putting the "stick" back into "stick & rudder man."

Clubsmanship is a dying art, you know.
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Old 04-22-2017, 09:19 PM   #69
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Hey all im wondering if anyone has any input for which trainer I should get with the Easter discount. My wife has an interest in taking part in my obsession but she has virtually no flying experience other than what I've talked about during chores. Eventually she'll be on the hawg but I'd like to train her on flight fundamentals in a less complicated aircraft. I'm not necessarily looking for the "best" aircraft but rather the best to teach in that mimics the a-10's characteristics to a point. Thanks for any input!
FW-190 is a good one. 2nd choice would be Bf-109.

Both are finicky to learn and do well with.

Then go from there.

I started with the A-10C when it was a CD purchase locally, then transitioned to the Ka-50, BS1 I think.
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i don't know which is best but if you buy a huey, she certainly divorce you
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