phant Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) ...We will start with an early tranche, most likely the Block 1 moving onto Tranche 2 and Tranche 3 with complex Air-to-Ground systems and full DCS integration. We all know that many systems of Typhoon are still classified. In percentage (20%, 40%, 60%?), how many of avionics will be modeled in your DCS: Eurofighter Typhoon? Thanks in advance and keep good work! :) Bye Phant Edited June 8, 2012 by phant Link to comment
Ells228 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hi Phant, As you say many of the systems are still classified and it is very early to give an estimate based on the data we already have. Our aim of course is to be 100% acurate, but with systems classified this just may not be possible and will have to based on available data and our engineers best guess in wind tunnels etc. All I can say at the moment is that we are working on other avenues that may give us more access to data. Link to comment
WildBillKelsoe Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hi Phant, As you say many of the systems are still classified and it is very early to give an estimate based on the data we already have. Our aim of course is to be 100% acurate, but with systems classified this just may not be possible and will have to based on available data and our engineers best guess in wind tunnels etc. All I can say at the moment is that we are working on other avenues that may give us more access to data. ^ and that my friend, is the main purpose of DCS, and ED's existence so far. High fidelity simulators, for combat. We are not asking the impossible, here, you see. Whichever aircraft you have 100% access to simulate, doesn't matter old or new, we will purchase, so long as it's on par with A-10C fidelity, BS fidelity...:thumbup: AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment
Sceptre Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ^ and that my friend, is the main purpose of DCS, and ED's existence so far. High fidelity simulators, for combat. We are not asking the impossible, here, you see. Whichever aircraft you have 100% access to simulate, doesn't matter old or new, we will purchase, so long as it's on par with A-10C fidelity, BS fidelity...:thumbup: +100 RTX 2070 8GB | 32GB DDR4 2666 RAM | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 4.2Ghz | Asrock X570 | CH Fighterstick/Pro Throttle | TM MFDs | TrackIR 5 Link to comment
P1KW Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Fantastic news ... But, I understand that data is classified to no access in the short to medium term. I also hope minimum level as A-10, Ka-50. Greetings! "If adventure is dangerous, try the routine. It is deadly." Paulo Coelho. Link to comment
komemiute Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I work for the EADS ASTA Eurofighter Typhoon Military Flight Simulator. I've logged almost 200 Sim-flight hours in it and can't wait to test the depth of this module :) Man, it'll be like working at home! :O Link to comment
Ells228 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hey Komemiute, In the nicest possible way I hate you!!! haha The purpose of developing our Typhoon model a few years ago was also to talk to air forces about a cheaper alternative to ASTA. I'm certainly loking forward to your appraisal of our module. 1 Link to comment
martinistripes Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ^ and that my friend, is the main purpose of DCS, and ED's existence so far. High fidelity simulators, for combat. We are not asking the impossible, here, you see. Whichever aircraft you have 100% access to simulate, doesn't matter old or new, we will purchase, so long as it's on par with A-10C fidelity, BS fidelity...:thumbup: ^What he said. I'd take one accurate module over five guesstimated ones all day everyday. Valve Index | RTX 3070 Ti (Mobile) | i7-12700H @ 2.7GHz | 16GB RAM Link to comment
Jona33 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 You guys are the BEST. EVER! I can't wait for this. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing Link to comment
VH-SkyHawk Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 my precioooooouuuuuusssssssssss must have the preciouuussssssssss! Link to comment
garengarch Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Looking forward to this as I can't get the FC2 version working (operator error) ! Vega 2700x /16Gb ram/480Gb SSD/1Tb Seagate/nVidia 2080/Win 10 64 bit Rift. T-flight pedals. Link to comment
ED Team f-18hornet Posted June 8, 2012 ED Team Share Posted June 8, 2012 ^ and that my friend, is the main purpose of DCS, and ED's existence so far. High fidelity simulators, for combat. We are not asking the impossible, here, you see. Whichever aircraft you have 100% access to simulate, doesn't matter old or new, we will purchase, so long as it's on par with A-10C fidelity, BS fidelity...:thumbup: +1.:joystick: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, GeForce RTX 2080Ti, 32 GB DRAM, HOTAS TM Warthog, FSSB R3 Lighting, MFG Crosswind, Win 10 Pro Link to comment
71st_Mastiff Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Hi Phant, As you say many of the systems are still classified and it is very early to give an estimate based on the data we already have. Our aim of course is to be 100% acurate, but with systems classified this just may not be possible and will have to based on available data and our engineers best guess in wind tunnels etc. All I can say at the moment is that we are working on other avenues that may give us more access to data. yes just build a 1:24th scale model, make a wind tunnel and then make your own data? " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment
Ells228 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yep that's already being discussed with our engineer. Link to comment
159th_Falcon Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Please note though, aerodynamics on a small scale aircraft work a bit different then on the actual aircraft. Not that this makes it impossible, just need to keep it in mind and adjust accordingly. (this is the reason why flying scale model aircraft often have either slightly different profiles, or are a b*tch to fly) ~S~ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:) Link to comment
WildFire Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'd imagine it would be difficult to match the weight and get the proper config for the exact thrust to weight ratio with the engine. And trying also to match the center of gravity and all that jazz... Sounds like a tough gig. Link to comment
F l a n k e r Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Please note though, aerodynamics on a small scale aircraft work a bit different then on the actual aircraft. Not that this makes it impossible, just need to keep it in mind and adjust accordingly. (this is the reason why flying scale model aircraft often have either slightly different profiles, or are a b*tch to fly) ~S~ Yep, adimensional parameters in the Navier-Stokes equation, but I think an engineer knows it. Link to comment
159th_Falcon Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yep, adimensional parameters in the Navier-Stokes equation, but I think an engineer knows it. Never hearth of Navier-Strokes equation...... gonna look it up. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:) Link to comment
Executioner Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Never hearth of Navier-Strokes equation...... gonna look it up. Yeah, you might regret that ;) If not - there is a useful paper that can take you closer to what some game devs use as a sensible, extensible set of solution functions for N-S/CFD work, including some turbulence. As you can see in that PDF - you can get some quite nifty results if used against particles (although using it for force-grids in flight, whilst making the airflow a variable-density fluid can also be worthy :)) Martin... Link to comment
Revvin Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I want to fly the most realistic simulators available to us the home user and while I note the discussions on F-22 and the Eurofighter regarding their classified systems I wonder how many of you thoroughly enjoyed EF2000 and F-22 Total Air War as I did even though back then even less was known about the aircraft. Link to comment
Gaanalma Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19.0 here you can find a forum to talk about Eurofighter avionics ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment
Gaanalma Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Here! http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,394.0.html?PHPSESSID=c1e52e63675b6117b17db17793148ef0 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment
Gaanalma Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 This is the Pirate! http://www.aeromedia.it/pirate.html http://www.galileoavionica.it/A3_co1_inf.htm [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment
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