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There was already a thread in some random section but it got lost in the past months..

 

I'm curious whether the amount of cockpit shakiness we have is realistic or not. To me it feels very overdone but I'm no expert. It's particularly annoying when fighting guns, it makes aiming far more difficult. Can anyone comment?

 

I also don't recall having similar features in any other aircraft, although I don't fly them often. Is it a testbed for now?


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I remember having read, or heard (podcast), that the F-15 and F-16 shake a lot, while the F-18 doesnt.

I think it was in this podcast: http://omegataupodcast.net/224-flying-the-f-15-eagle/

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I watched all the YouTube F-15C cockpit footage I could find. Looks like there's a modest degree of shaking during high-G AOA conditions but it's hard to differentiate camera shake from cockpit shake so... not sure.

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I also saw some videos and the camera seemed to shake quite a bit but like you said it's tough to tell how much that translates to the pilot. Currently ingame you're almost better off aiming without LCOS in snapshot scenarios.

 

Can anyone comment from the test/dev perspective? GG or chizh maybe?

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The shaking is excessive in-game. The parameter to adjust it is exposed, but altering it breaks the module's integrity so you can't even try to play with it :)

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Thanks. Are there any plans to "fix" it?

 

 

 

I also vote to Fix it. Dog fighting against MiG 29 make things even more complicated

 

 

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The inter stinger thing being that in VR, only cockpit shakes, but in desktop mode, also the whole sky shakes.

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No, either get VR or create a bug report about this in bug report forum section...

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There was already a thread in some random section but it got lost in the past months..

 

I'm curious whether the amount of cockpit shakiness we have is realistic or not. To me it feels very overdone but I'm no expert. It's particularly annoying when fighting guns, it makes aiming far more difficult. Can anyone comment?

 

I also don't recall having similar features in any other aircraft, although I don't fly them often. Is it a testbed for now?

 

 

I have a little trick you can try if you want to change shake parameters..

 

 

 

1. Copy the "C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\F-15C\FM\F15" folder where the F15 config.lua is and paste in another location.

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2. Open the new config.lua with notepad++, edit the contents, and save it.

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3. Using OVGME, set up a quick swap mod for the two F-15 folders.

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4. Dont enable the mod yet.

 

 

5. Start DCS and load a mission with the F15.. Fly it and then exit the mission..

6.once back on any menu screen, open OVGME and enable the swap of the two folders.. The F15 will now fly with your modded config.lua until you exit the game or change it back.

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Wtf is "OVGME" ?

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